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vlad vs. beltran

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:10 am
by bob123
i chose beltran over guerrero with the third pick in my draft today. head-to-head yahoo league with 10 teams, offensive categories are average, runs, walks, steals, total bases, home runs, and rbis.

i did it mainly for the steals, but then when i was able to snag crawford in the late second round i started to doubt myself a little. beltran does get more walks and steals, but guerrero will hit for a much higher average and has slightly better power (hr, rbis, total bases).

what do you guys think?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:17 am
by Kelly Gruber
I agree, but you didn't know you were getting Crawford later, right. Why don't you trade Crawford, who is really hyped up right now, for a decent power hitter. I'd suggest trading for Nomar if you can before he starts tearing it up for the Cubs, although it may be too late now, as people are excited by his ST stats.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:22 am
by bob123
unfortunately i have a no nomar policy in place for a couple of years because he burned me last year, heh. i have carlos guillen at shortstop anyway; i'm optimistic and i think he should give me similar production to nomar.

interesting idea about trading crawford ... my team is stacked in terms of steals; in addition to beltran and crawford, i also have patterson (30), wilkerson (10-15), wright (15-20, marcus giles (20-25), and some other guys that might swipe a few. i might look into trading crawford ... it'd have to be for a bopper, though; crawford is arguably the best option in baseball this year for steals.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:28 am
by jkpigskin
beltran is very patient at the plate.. so he will help u with walks... if beltran can go back to his .300 ways and keep his other stats near where they were last year.. then he will be awesome... though i think vlad is the safer pick

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:46 am
by CubsFan7724
Im not trying to be mean, but it was foolish to pass Vlad once Pujols was off the board. Vlad hits in the high .330s, and will hit more HR, RBI, and probably more R. And its not like 15-20 steals is shabby either. Beltran may get you to .300, but .290 range is more likely.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:39 pm
by agchris02
i completely agree, unless youre just afraid vlad will get hurt, he's the much better pick, i almost jumped out of my seat, picking 4, when the draft went arod, pujols, beltran and vlad fell to me, he'll get you a higher avg, more runs, more rbis, most likely comparable walks, and still get you a few steals

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:42 pm
by SaintsOfTheDiamond
In that setup there is no way I wouldn't take Vlad if he fell to me at No. 3. There is no way I would take Beltran over Vlad anyway, but especially not with added emphasis on power (TB) for your league.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:43 pm
by raiders_umpire
vlad would have been the easy choice to me over beltran... beltrans 25 extra steals does not make up that 45 plus batting average along with the extra hrs and rbis as well.....

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:30 pm
by Cornbread Maxwell
Give me Beltran over Vlad.

Also, bob123, sounds like you have a pretty decent team - the guy I would try and move is Patterson - not Crawford. Stick with Guillen too.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:37 pm
by LBJackal
Yeah I'd definately trade one of your SB guys. Trading Crawford wouldn't hurt your team in any area but SB's which you are already strong in. Crawford isn't the best for drawing walks and getting total bases. So if you need pitching, you can go and get some. But don't trade just for the sake of trading - make sure you get a fair deal. Patterson might also have to go. I don't really like him because his BA isn't showing signs of improving and eventually Chicago HAS to move him far away from the top of the order. But of course it depends what you can get for him. It might be best to keep him because he gives you more of a shot at winning SB's every week, which if you trade Cawford you might need.