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Postby GameOn » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:34 pm

Davis was last year's Loaiza...former Ranger pitchers who finally were able to put a good season together...and I think Davis will continue in Loaiza's footsteps by having a bad season. I'd take Miller.
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Postby The Jury » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:42 pm

C J. Posada (NYY - C) 122/449 72 122 21 81 1 88 92 216 .881
1B J. Giambi (NYY - 1B) 55/264 33 55 12 40 0 47 62 100 .721
2B J. Kent (LAD - 2B) 156/540 96 156 27 107 7 49 96 287 .879
3B C. Jones (Atl - 3B,LF) 117/472 69 117 30 96 2 84 96 229 .847
SS N. Garciaparra (ChC - SS) 99/321 52 99 9 41 4 24 30 153 .842
LF M. Ramírez (Bos - LF) 175/568 108 175 43 130 2 82 124 348 1.01
CF P. Wilson (Col - CF) 50/202 24 50 6 29 2 17 49 79 .706
RF G. Sheffield (NYY - RF) 166/573 117 166 36 121 5 92 83 306 .927
OF C. Floyd (NYM - LF) 103/396 55 103 18 63 11 47 103 183 .814
Util Mi. Sweeney (KC - 1B) 118/411 56 118 22 79 3 33 44 207 .851
BN M. Piazza (NYM - C,1B) 121/455 47 121 20 54 0 68 78 202 .806
BN J. González (Cle - RF) 35/127 17 35 5 17 0 9 19 56 .767
BN F. Thomas (CWS - Util) 65/240 53 65 18 49 0 64 57 135 .997
Pos Pitchers Edit Opp Status IP W L SV BB K ERA WHIP K/BB
SP R. Johnson (NYY - SP) 245.2 16 14 0 44 290 2.60 0.90 6.59
SP B. Sheets (Mil - SP) 237.0 12 14 0 32 264 2.70 0.98 8.25
SP J. Vázquez (Ari - SP) 198.0 14 10 0 60 150 4.91 1.29 2.50
SP B. Colón (LAA - SP) 208.1 18 12 0 71 158 5.01 1.37 2.23
RP B. Lidge (Hou - RP) 94.2 6 5 29 30 157 1.90 0.92 5.23
RP A. Benítez (SF - RP) 69.2 2 2 47 21 62 1.29 0.82 2.95
BN K. Millwood (Cle - SP) 141.0 9 6 0 51 125 4.85 1.46 2.45
BN M. Morris (StL - SP) 202.0 15 10 0 56 131 4.72 1.29 2.34
BN K. Brown (NYY - SP) 132.0 10 6 0 35 83 4.09 1.27 2.37
BN J. Piñeiro (Sea - SP) 140.2 6 11 0 43 111 4.67 1.33 2.58
BN R. Wolf (Phi - SP) 136.2 5 8 0 36 89 4.28 1.32 2.47
BN L. Hawkins (ChC - RP) 82.0 5 4 25 14 69 2.63 1.05 4.93
BN D. Davis (Mil - SP) 207.1 12 12 0 79 166 3.39 1.31 2.10

Hmm.. this is my team as it stands.. should I attempt to reverse that transaction? It already went through before the rest of your advice could come in

:~(
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Postby GameOn » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:58 pm

The Jury wrote:C J. Posada (NYY - C) 122/449 72 122 21 81 1 88 92 216 .881
1B J. Giambi (NYY - 1B) 55/264 33 55 12 40 0 47 62 100 .721
2B J. Kent (LAD - 2B) 156/540 96 156 27 107 7 49 96 287 .879
3B C. Jones (Atl - 3B,LF) 117/472 69 117 30 96 2 84 96 229 .847
SS N. Garciaparra (ChC - SS) 99/321 52 99 9 41 4 24 30 153 .842
LF M. Ramírez (Bos - LF) 175/568 108 175 43 130 2 82 124 348 1.01
CF P. Wilson (Col - CF) 50/202 24 50 6 29 2 17 49 79 .706
RF G. Sheffield (NYY - RF) 166/573 117 166 36 121 5 92 83 306 .927
OF C. Floyd (NYM - LF) 103/396 55 103 18 63 11 47 103 183 .814
Util Mi. Sweeney (KC - 1B) 118/411 56 118 22 79 3 33 44 207 .851
BN M. Piazza (NYM - C,1B) 121/455 47 121 20 54 0 68 78 202 .806
BN J. González (Cle - RF) 35/127 17 35 5 17 0 9 19 56 .767
BN F. Thomas (CWS - Util) 65/240 53 65 18 49 0 64 57 135 .997
Pos Pitchers Edit Opp Status IP W L SV BB K ERA WHIP K/BB
SP R. Johnson (NYY - SP) 245.2 16 14 0 44 290 2.60 0.90 6.59
SP B. Sheets (Mil - SP) 237.0 12 14 0 32 264 2.70 0.98 8.25
SP J. Vázquez (Ari - SP) 198.0 14 10 0 60 150 4.91 1.29 2.50
SP B. Colón (LAA - SP) 208.1 18 12 0 71 158 5.01 1.37 2.23
RP B. Lidge (Hou - RP) 94.2 6 5 29 30 157 1.90 0.92 5.23
RP A. Benítez (SF - RP) 69.2 2 2 47 21 62 1.29 0.82 2.95
BN K. Millwood (Cle - SP) 141.0 9 6 0 51 125 4.85 1.46 2.45
BN M. Morris (StL - SP) 202.0 15 10 0 56 131 4.72 1.29 2.34
BN K. Brown (NYY - SP) 132.0 10 6 0 35 83 4.09 1.27 2.37
BN J. Piñeiro (Sea - SP) 140.2 6 11 0 43 111 4.67 1.33 2.58
BN R. Wolf (Phi - SP) 136.2 5 8 0 36 89 4.28 1.32 2.47
BN L. Hawkins (ChC - RP) 82.0 5 4 25 14 69 2.63 1.05 4.93
BN D. Davis (Mil - SP) 207.1 12 12 0 79 166 3.39 1.31 2.10

Hmm.. this is my team as it stands.. should I attempt to reverse that transaction? It already went through before the rest of your advice could come in

:~(


Depends on what you need to do to reverse it.

on another note...it is just eery how similar my pitching staff is to yours in my main league. I have Lidge, Benitez, Millwood, Morris, Brown, Pineiro, and Wolf

Are you in like a 4 team league or something...I don't think you should be real worried who to pickup davis or miller because your team looks pretty darn good already. It must be a small league if Davis and Miller are available.
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Postby The Jury » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:48 pm

It's an 8 team buddies league. Reversing this transaction would just mean putting in a waiver request for Wade Miller and dropping Davis. Should I?
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Postby orange12 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:59 pm

I don't like either pitcher but with Johnson and Sheets anchoring your staff, you'll probably never be desperate enough to use Davis. Therefore I think you can afford to pick up Miller who is marginally better than Davis simply b/c of the fact that he's on Boston. You should plan to have Miller sit out the month of April.
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Postby The Jury » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:11 pm

orange12 wrote:I don't like either pitcher but with Johnson and Sheets anchoring your staff, you'll probably never be desperate enough to use Davisp. Therefore I think you can afford to pick up Miller who is marginally better than Davis simply b/c of the fact that he's on Boston. You should plan to have Miller sit out the month of April.


Depth is always a good thing internally and for trading.

Do you think Wade in the AL East will be better than Davis in Milwaukee?
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Postby orange12 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:20 pm

I think so. Miller can strike people out with the best of them when he's healthy. Davis isn't bad and I like the fact that he's turning the prime age of 30 when players have their career years but Milwaukee is just not a good place to do it.
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Postby The Jury » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:18 am

orange12 wrote:I think so. Miller can strike people out with the best of them when he's healthy. Davis isn't bad and I like the fact that he's turning the prime age of 30 when players have their career years but Milwaukee is just not a good place to do it.


Ben Sheets...?
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Postby GameOn » Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:07 pm

The Jury wrote:
orange12 wrote:I think so. Miller can strike people out with the best of them when he's healthy. Davis isn't bad and I like the fact that he's turning the prime age of 30 when players have their career years but Milwaukee is just not a good place to do it.


Ben Sheets...?


Ben Sheets is dominant...you can't compare him to Davis. Sheets on a good day can win the game himself. Davis can't do that, he will give up on average 3 or 4 runs a game so it is up to their offense to win it.
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