bselig wrote:wow are you retarded? i'll rephrase some what i typed: roids -> getting ginormously huge -> increased performance
ok? that's how i'm assuming steroids work, maybe i'm wrong. if i'm wrong then and in the 50's they used to work like this:
roids -> no hugeness, no increase in muscle mass, no physical evidence of strength gains -> increased performance
two things (at least) would be nec. for the availability of steroids earlier to be in any way meaningful in regards to performance based criticism of the drugs' effects, which is what you were talking about initially:
-1) evidence players actually used them
-2) evidence player use had a positive effect on player performance
show those two things and the stuff you're saying has a shot at making sense...don't show those things and it's just idiotic rambling. i am taking the absence of #1 as a given since no evidence of use has been presented, and with the absence of #1 the absence of #2 naturally follows. that is all
now if in your second post you are saying that it is equally wrong to take roids (in the drug sense of roids, not in the anti-competitive sense of roids) if you don't manifest any of the effects of roids, then sure, i agree. but obviously that has nothing to do with the performance based unfairness issues of roids and was completely irrelevant and pointless to mention
Bottom line is this..You claim that "SIZE" is the key factor in making you a better player when utilizing 'roids... If this was true, than Canseco would still be playing today... My arguement is that you must hold ALL generations resposible for the use of enhancing drugs, or none of them...Just believe in equality..Silly me
(And if players were using and getting away with it, how can other's be held responsible for making the playing ground equal, unless you hold ALL of them responsible including the Non- SuperStar player...)
You can act ignorant to the fact that 'roids have been used in the USA for over 50 years... (and many athletes over that time have gained from the use) The drug itself has changed over the years, and is now much more potent, but it doesn't take away the fact that it's been used for many, many , many years in our sports society...
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