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Jedimindtric wrote:What I don't understand is why there is so much more disapproval for Mac then Bonds. At least Mac wasn't an outright jerk. It has been said by one of the writers that Mac didn't achieve his status without steroids but what about Bonds? He was a very good line drive hitter with speed turned monster 70 hrs a year. What do you call that? In addition, this whole mess pretty much started with Bonds and Balco so why the heck wasn't Bonds asked to testify in front of Congress? Maybe immunity? Maybe a conspiracy by baseball because Bonds is still a draw? What is it? They will probably both make the hall but after all this but I don't really believe they deserve it. Yes the hall is filled with racists, gamblers, addicts and so on but this is blantant cheating in our face. Now I still like Big Mac, and I have never liked Bonds, but with this aside, I think Bonds should crawl away, leave Hank's record alone, and give us remaining baseball fans something real to hold on to. Also. in my mind, there is no *, Roger Maris holds the single season HR record.
SouthBronxBombers wrote:If McGwire is in the HoF, then Dave Kingman deserves to be there. This is a man who has a career average of .263. He hit .201 over a full season in the prime of his career. He is a one dimensional player, and that one dimension was enhanced a great deal by taking illegal substances. Whether they were against the rules of baseball, they were against the fricking law for him to be taking. His numbers do not merit being selected, and his cheating makes him even less deserving.
Bonds had the numbers prior to even starting juicing. That to me is the key difference. I probably would not vote for him simply because I think he violated the integrity of the game, but his stats before all of that merit inclusion.
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