Matt Clement - Fantasy Baseball Cafe 2014 Fantasy Baseball Cafe
100% Deposit Bonus for Cafe Members!

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Matt Clement

Moderator: Baseball Moderators

Postby LBJackal » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:46 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:of course all those numbers show is what happens when you add in an extra batter instead of a pitcher - I understand that. My argument had more to do with the quality of the teams.


Well, the quality of teams doesn't matter, the amount of runs they score does. ERA counts runs, not quality.

Caught ya with your foot in your mouth :-D

BTW skip church on Sunday.
Image

"Jack, will you call me, if you're able?"

"I've got your phone number written, in the back of my Bible."
LBJackal
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
Pick 3 Weekly Winner
Posts: 9196
Joined: 1 Jul 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: The Hotel Yorba

Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:46 pm

Yeah - its a concern, no doubt, Im not saying he's great, but given the weakness of SP, he's still a top 30 SP - thats the point. Again, who are you ranking ahead of him? Zito? Beurhle? Pavano? Vazquez?

His Ks shouldnt decrease that drastically, and a K/IP might be a bit high with the league switch , but Id be very suprised if he didnt get at least 175 if he pitches 200 innings.
Image
Cornbread Maxwell
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicFantasy ExpertPick 3 ChampionSweet 16 Survivor
Posts: 5694
Joined: 7 Jul 2003
Home Cafe: Football

Postby Steve-o » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:21 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:of course all those numbers show is what happens when you add in an extra batter instead of a pitcher - I understand that. My argument had more to do with the quality of the teams.

I see him with 200IP - 15W - 3.75 ERA - 1.3 WHIP - 200Ks.

Solid top 30-35 SP - better then the CHW duo and about the same level as Maddux - higher Ks, along with a higher WHIP. I put him a step below Mulder, in the same tier as Pavano, and ahead of Zito.

Basically he's a good #3 SP


These are very similar to my numbers.

14-11, 200 IP 200 K 3.86 ERA, 1.28 WHIP

I also have a big red mark on my cheatsheet because of the gopher balls, but I put less factor into this though becuase of his great K rate. I have him as a top 25 pitcher and right in the middle of my third tier of pitchers.
Steve-o
Major League Manager
Major League Manager

User avatar

Posts: 1879
Joined: 7 May 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Finally back home. A sweet 15 mi from Miller Park.

Postby xtrm84 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:26 pm

you guys are playing it safe, Boston is where he'll earn his right to the Hall of fame, he'll flurish there. Ill be the one saying I told you so at years end!
xtrm84
College Coach
College Coach

User avatar

Posts: 122
Joined: 20 Feb 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: The Original OC, Anaheim!

Postby slomo007 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:33 pm

xtrm84 wrote:you guys are playing it safe, Boston is where he'll earn his right to the Hall of fame, he'll flurish there. Ill be the one saying I told you so at years end!


Clement, HOF? :-?

:-P
slomo007
Hall of Fame Hero
Hall of Fame Hero

User avatar
CafeholicEagle Eye
Posts: 11960
Joined: 31 May 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball

Postby redsox588 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:44 pm

18-5 3.31 ERA 215 IP. 208 K's


yea i said it...

(I'm only a little biased)
RED SOX '04 CHAMPS
redsox588
College Coach
College Coach

User avatar

Posts: 293
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: New York

Postby Conner » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:15 pm

Mookie4ever wrote: For the same price that I see him going you can get Smoltz or (another pitcher that I don't want to mention in front of Cornbread ) who will do much much better.


Now I'm incredibly curious. :-/
Conner
Minor League Mentor
Minor League Mentor


Posts: 760
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Home Cafe: Baseball

Postby TheRawDAWG » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:34 pm

I don't think he'll have an ERA under 4 this year.

And I too am very curious what pitcher mookie is talking about
Barry Bonds for US president.
TheRawDAWG
Minor League Mentor
Minor League Mentor


Posts: 819
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
Home Cafe: Football
Location: Roy Halladay Bandwagon

Postby Mookie4ever » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:48 pm

I'm in a league with Corn - we're drafting right now, a slow draft.

I have this pitcher lined up to draft but don't want to mention him because Corn picks ahead of me. The damned vulture :-D
Image
Mookie4ever
Head Moderator
Head Moderator

User avatar
ModeratorCafeholicFantasy ExpertCafe WriterMock(ing) DrafterEagle EyeCafe SpotterHockey ModBasketball ModFootball ModMatchup Meltdown ChampionPick 3 Weekly WinnerSweet 16 SurvivorLucky Ladders Weekly Winner
Posts: 19545
(Past Year: 280)
Joined: 17 Dec 2003
Home Cafe: Baseball
Location: Hakuna, Montana

Postby Conner » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:51 pm

Just make sure to reveal the secret after the guy is picked, and I'll be satisfied. ;-D
Conner
Minor League Mentor
Minor League Mentor


Posts: 760
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Home Cafe: Baseball

PreviousNext

Return to Baseball Leftovers

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests

Forums Articles & Tips Sleepers Rankings Leagues


Today's Games
Friday, Sep. 19
(All times are EST, weather icons show forecast for game time)

LA Dodgers at Chi Cubs
(2:20 pm)
Boston at Baltimore
(7:05 pm)
Toronto at NY Yankees
(7:05 pm)
Milwaukee at Pittsburgh
(7:05 pm)
Washington at Miami
(7:10 pm)
indoors
Chi White Sox at Tampa Bay
(7:10 pm)
indoors
NY Mets at Atlanta
(7:35 pm)
Cleveland at Minnesota
(8:10 pm)
Detroit at Kansas City
(8:10 pm)
Seattle at Houston
(8:10 pm)
Arizona at Colorado
(8:10 pm)
Cincinnati at St. Louis
(8:15 pm)
Philadelphia at Oakland
(9:35 pm)
Texas at LA Angels
(10:05 pm)
San Francisco at San Diego
(10:10 pm)

  • Fantasy Baseball
  • Article Submissions
  • Privacy Statement
  • Site Survey 
  • Contact