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Postby Bobblehead » Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:04 pm

I just drafted Helton in the 2nd round of my live draft last night. This was the 16th overall pick. Teixera and Ortiz were the 17th & 18th overall picks.

Is Helton no longer clearly over Tex and Ortiz? Thome was taken as the 22nd overall pick. How would you rank these 4 players?
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Postby Niffoc4 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:13 pm

I personally still take helton over them, and in fact last night I too got Helton at the 15th spot (3rd in the 2nd round) and coupling him with Bonds (my first rounder) I feel very comfortable both in power and BA
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Postby Bobblehead » Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:18 pm

Niffoc4 wrote:I personally still take helton over them, and in fact last night I too got Helton at the 15th spot (3rd in the 2nd round) and coupling him with Bonds (my first rounder) I feel very comfortable both in power and BA


Yeah I drafted Helton with Man Ramirez, my first round pick, and Gary Sheffield, my third round pick. Those 3 I felt were a solid start to my team.
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Postby quicksilver8 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:06 pm

Unless your league uses On Base Percentage, Helton isn't worth a first round pick imo. Too little power production to take him first round....maybe in an NL only you could justify it....
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Postby NZF » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:47 pm

quicksilver8 wrote:Unless your league uses On Base Percentage, Helton isn't worth a first round pick imo.


That reasoning doesn't make sense.

He's Top 2 in OBP in the majors the last 2 years and Top 2 in average. So where's the difference :-?

He's a definite first round pick. Anyone that thinks otherwise is seriously undervaluing BA.
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Postby mtarail » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:04 pm

Bobblehead wrote:I just drafted Helton in the 2nd round of my live draft last night. This was the 16th overall pick. Teixera and Ortiz were the 17th & 18th overall picks.

Is Helton no longer clearly over Tex and Ortiz? Thome was taken as the 22nd overall pick. How would you rank these 4 players?


Tex has had one good year and Helton has had 7 in a row. That consistency is precisely why he should be drafted well ahead of Tex or Ortiz.
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Postby curious_george_43545 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:09 pm

Pujols ( Obviously )
Helton ( Mr. Consistant )
Teix ( Expect big things )
Ortiz ( Great Hitter in a great lineup )
Thome ( could hit 45+ homers, you never know )

Those are the top 5
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Postby quicksilver8 » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:00 am

Helton is overvalued. He doesn't jack the 40 homers or 120 rbis like he used to. The team around him sux. He will be lucky to hit 30 homers and drive in 90 this year in that lineup...he will walk 120 times. there are at least 9 guys to take before him: Vlad, A-Rod, Beltran, Abreu, Pujols, Manny, Tejada, RJ, Santana so I guess he could be a late first rounder...
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Postby Niffoc4 » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:42 am

Pujols ( Obviously )
Helton ( Mr. Consistant )
Teix ( Expect big things )
Ortiz ( Great Hitter in a great lineup )
Thome ( could hit 45+ homers, you never know )

Those are the top 5

I assume you mean top 5 1Bmen, and if so I like the list...
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Postby curious_george_43545 » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:59 am

Niffoc4 wrote:
Pujols ( Obviously )
Helton ( Mr. Consistant )
Teix ( Expect big things )
Ortiz ( Great Hitter in a great lineup )
Thome ( could hit 45+ homers, you never know )

Those are the top 5

I assume you mean top 5 1Bmen, and if so I like the list...


Yes, I meant forfirstbaseman and thank you
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