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Postby Amazinz » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:26 pm

W L K/9 ERA WHIP SV

This is what I'd use. If it's H2H make sure you have an IP minimum ~30.

My personal preference for H2H is 7x7 using

W L K/9 ERA WHIP SV HLD

But if I had to choose between L and HLD I'd take the Losses.
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Postby cubsin'05 » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:37 pm

i like the ip category, but u wouldn't necessarily have to change the K category to k/9 because that is just too much math involved... cg's are good too, since there are so few of them...

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Postby xeifrank » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:42 pm

Personally, I'd replace BA with either OPS or OBP and keep it 5x5. There really is no good 6th pitching category. I also like K/9 over K, but I wouldn't switch to K/9 if you use holds.

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Postby PresHabib » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:05 pm

game appearances...do you get points for having MORE appearances, or LESS appearances?
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Postby mcmahojl » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:17 pm

I am not a fan of Losses, because of how much it relies on the offense of the team (ie Randy Johnson 2.6 ERA, 14 L)

How about HR given up? A HR given up is no one's fault but his own.
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Postby whos_your_dawgy » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:30 pm

We use K/BB as our sixth category and love it. The majority of the top pitchers have K/BB > 3.00, so it makes them even more valuable.
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:23 pm

three_peat wrote:I like Appearances better than holds. We have run a 6x6 league for a while now and have settled on App as the sixth pitch category. Also, makes owners pay attention and put forth effort to do well in that category.


I just can't see valuing just showing up. I would at least like to use stats that reflect the fact that the player did something, anything, that helped his team win. Appearancs rewards a third of an inning where you gave up 6 runs exactly the same as a perfect game. That's just whack.
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Postby PresHabib » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:44 pm

GotowarMissAgnes wrote:
three_peat wrote:I like Appearances better than holds. We have run a 6x6 league for a while now and have settled on App as the sixth pitch category. Also, makes owners pay attention and put forth effort to do well in that category.


I just can't see valuing just showing up. I would at least like to use stats that reflect the fact that the player did something, anything, that helped his team win. Appearancs rewards a third of an inning where you gave up 6 runs exactly the same as a perfect game. That's just whack.


Well the rationale behind the category is this....if you have fewer appearances, with an innings pitched limit, it implies that your starters went deeper into games (it took them fewer games to reach the IP limit, which ours is 1200 innings for the season). Which is why I wanted to know if you get points for having the most or the least appearances, because the guys who have the pitchers go the deepest will have the fewest appearances to make up that 1200 IP....

That would be good because we want to reward pitchers who go deep into games, but also reward the Johan Santana's who go 8 innings every start, but not usually nine ya know?

So does anybody know? points for most appearances, or fewest appearances?
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