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Postby asumikey222 » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:50 am

Awesome work. For comparison, this is my top 150 based on ESPN (actually it's an ESPN amalgam of 3 expert rankings and I just took the combined rating, though the combined is weighted evenly with the others), CBS, BaseballDocs, Sportfanatics, and Sporting News:

1 A. Rodriguez 1.8
2 A. Pujols 2.2
3 V. Guerrero 3
4 C. Beltran 3
5 B. Bonds 6.2
6 B. Abreu 8.2
7 J. Santana 8.6
8 M. Ramirez 8.6
9 M. Tejada 9
10 T. Helton 9.4
11 R. Johnson 10
12 A. Soriano 12.8
13 S. Rolen 15.8
14 C. Crawford 16
15 I. Suzuki 17.2
16 G. Sheffield 17.2
17 A. Beltre 18.6
18 M. Teixeira 20.2
19 D. Ortiz 20.6
20 J. Schmidt 21.6
21 E. Gagne 22.8
22 J. Edmonds 24.6
23 J. Thome 25
24 M. Cabrera 25.8
25 D. Jeter 26.2
26 B. Sheets 29
27 C. Schilling 30.4
28 M. Young 36.6
29 A. Huff 36.6
30 C. Delgado 37.2
31 E. Chavez 37.4
32 M. Rivera 38
33 J. Pierre 40.4
34 M. Prior 40.6
35 R. Oswalt 41
36 H. Blalock 41.2
37 J. Peavy 41.6
38 C. Lee 41.6
39 M. Giles 42
40 A. Ramirez 42.2
41 A. Dunn 42.2
42 M. Mora 43.4
43 D. Lee 44.2
44 C. Patterson 45.4
45 Ol. Perez 45.6
46 B. Lidge 46.2
47 P. Martinez 48.4
48 H. Matsui 51.4
49 R. Sexson 54.4
50 C. Zambrano 56.2
51 J. Damon 56.8
52 N. Garciaparra 60
53 R. Clemens 64.2
54 F. Cordero 64.4
55 T. Hudson 64.6
56 J. Bay 65.8
57 J. Rollins 66.6
58 R. Furcal 67.2
59 I. Rodriguez 67.4
60 F. Rodriguez 67.8
61 J. Kent 68
62 J. Nathan 68
63 E. Renteria 68.2
64 M. Lowell 68.2
65 K. Foulke 68.4
66 P. Konerko 69.8
67 B. Giles 72
68 T. Hafner 72.4
69 J. Lopez 72.8
70 S. Podsednik 73
71 A. Benitez 73.6
72 V. Martinez 74.4
73 V. Wells 74.4
74 C. Jones 76.4
75 G. Anderson 78.2
76 S. Casey 78.2
77 J.D. Drew 79
78 K. Wood 80.6
79 T. Glaus 84
80 D. Wright 84.8
81 B. Wagner 85.4
82 J. Morneau 86
83 S. Green 86
84 C. Pavano 86.2
85 A. Rowand 86.2
86 A. Jones 89
87 S. Sosa 90.2
88 J. Guillen 92.6
89 J. Smoltz 94
90 B. Wilkerson 94.4
91 B. Boone 94.6
92 T. Hunter 97
93 J. Posada 97.2
94 J. Isringhausen 97.6
95 M. Alou 98.8
96 J. Beckett 100.2
97 O. Dotel 100.4
98 R. Halladay 100.6
99 M. Loretta 101.8
100 L. Hernandez 103.2
101 S. Finley 104
102 T. Hoffman 107
103 J. Bagwell 107.6
104 M. Mussina 108.4
105 R. Harden 111.2
106 B. Colon 111.2
107 M. Buehrle 112
108 J. Varitek 112.8
109 M. Mulder 117.4
110 A.J. Burnett 117.6
111 C. Guillen 122.2
112 J. Reyes 124.6
113 G. Maddux 125
114 C. Koskie 125.6
115 J. Vazquez 127.2
116 P. Nevin 128.2
117 L. Overbay 129.6
118 O. Perez 129.8
119 L. Walker 130
120 J. Vidro 130.2
121 B. Radke 130.2
122 F. Garcia 131.8
123 B. Zito 133.8
124 M. Ordonez 134.6
125 D. Young 136
126 L. Gonzalez 138.4
127 B. Roberts 138.8
128 J. Mauer 140.8
129 D. Roberts 141
130 M. Clement 142.8
131 R. Winn 143.2
132 K. Mench 144.2
133 C.C. Sabathia 146
134 B.J. Ryan 147.2
135 C. Figgins 147.4
136 E. Durazo 147.8
137 L. Ford 148.2
138 D. Kolb 150.4
139 J. Kendall 150.8
140 E. Guardado 152.4
141 L. Berkman 152.8
142 G. Mota 153
143 O. Cabrera 153.8
144 A. Boone 153.8
145 B. Crosby 154.8
146 M. Bradley 155.4
147 J. Jones 156
148 T. Percival 156.2
149 M. Lawton 156.8
150 C. Crisp 159

The list in my spreadsheet actually goes to 300 but beyond 200 it's not so useful since a lot of the players aren't even ranked at all on some of the Top 400 lists (so I use a placeholder like 425, b/c not being ranked is indicative of something bad, it's just hard to specify what). All in the Top 150 are ranked in all the lists though.

You are so right about a wide disparity in rankings once you get past 100, but that's part of the reason I did this so that I didn't rely too much on the craziness of one person, and everything gets kind of normalized out. Perfect example is Coco who is 236 and 262 at ESPN and CBS, and 60 and 74 at Sportfans and Sporting News.
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Postby Woolly » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:31 am

While this list might not be the best for you to use as your own, it is perfect for basing what the rest of the world might be thinking. Sometimes averaging sources can only dilute the good rankings with bad rankings. ;-D
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Postby thedude » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:48 pm

nice thread...bump
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Postby Nemo » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:18 am

I started to fill in every lists top 200 (which would have given me something like 300 names) but our autodraft is tomorrow so I had to quit and set my real list, which I'm working on now. Since it's autodraft, I need to rank as many guys as possible, I just have to get to it.

Most if the guys in my league probably won't stray to far from the yahoo rankings (it's a fairly casual league, we all have jobs and kids) with the exeption of moving a handful of guys around and there's always one knucklehead that ranks all the Red Sox high since we're all from New England. So my big strategy is to set my rankings relative to the yahoo ones, so I can get the guys I want in the place I want to get them. I'll post my draft result after it goes down.

FWIW last year I was pressed for time and simply set the top 100 to the mlb.com top 100 just to be different and had a really good draft and won the league. In fact, my final roster is still left in my profile, so it's below. Though I must have had someone other than Vidro in the playoffs because I seem to remember he got hurt. I wanted to get more sophisticated about it this year and we'll see how it goes.

In any event, I hope going through this exercise will be useful to you guys. Is there a way to attach a spreadsheet to a post? I'd gladly throw it up here and let someone else take it from here. Since my draft is tomorrow, I'm done working on it!

League Champion 2004 Final Roster

12 team H2H

Hitting
R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB AVG
C I. Rodriguez
1B A. Dunn
2B J. Vidro
3B H.Blalock
SS A. Rod
OF V. Guerrero
OF R. Hidalgo
OF S. Podsednik
Util L. Overbay
BN M. Sweeney
BN P. Wilson

Pitching
W SV HR BB K HLD ERA WHIP K/BB
SPs - C. Schilling, T. Hudson, R. Oswalt, J. Beckett, A. Eaton, A. Burnett
RPs - T. Percival, J. Isringhausen, D. Kolb, J. Mesa, A. Otsuka
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Postby FF Newb but Lovin it » Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:39 am

Nemo, could you post the draft results? I am very curious how your draft went. Thanks in advance.
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Postby Nemo » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:49 am

The draft takes place tonight. I'll post results when it's done.
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Postby citti34 » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:07 pm

This is very helpful, good job.
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:58 pm

A fine resource. Thanks for putting in the work.
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Postby atlbraves11 » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:52 pm

thanks a lot
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Postby FF Newb but Lovin it » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:17 am

Dude, can you post your draft results?
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