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Postby CameronCrazy » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:25 am

there has to be some teams that let their pitchers go deeper than others. do any of you know any?
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Postby slomo007 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:28 am

Basically any team with a poor closing situation.

That would translate this year to Toronto, Chicago, Arizona, Cleveland (?).
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:29 am

3 words: Dusty Friggin' Baker.
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Postby CameronCrazy » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:31 am

but not prior. right?
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Postby mtarail » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:39 am

Last year Mulder pitched quite a few complete games in the early part of the season. The year before, Halladay did in Toronto. Colon did that year too, in Chicago. Livan Hernandez has pitched a lot of complete games for the last few years in Montreal.

Like Slomo said, if your league collects stats for complete games then you probably want to look at workhorse pitchers with bad closers behind them. Livan might be the best candidate around right now to get complete games.
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Postby curious_george_43545 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:43 am

mtarail wrote:Last year Mulder pitched quite a few complete games in the early part of the season. The year before, Halladay did in Toronto. Colon did that year too, in Chicago. Livan Hernandez has pitched a lot of complete games for the last few years in Montreal.

Like Slomo said, if your league collects stats for complete games then you probably want to look at workhorse pitchers with bad closers behind them. Livan might be the best candidate around right now to get complete games.



Din't Livan have 9 Completer games last year and barely more wins that that. Not to mention his innings. League where innings and complete games count = Livan being a GREAT pick.
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Postby SHOCKandAWE » Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:01 am

Is there reall anyone worse than Dusty Baker??
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Postby Dmville » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:13 am

As far as CG's go, MLB ranks the top 6 as:

Mon--11 All Livian
Oak--10
Bal----8
Cle----8
CWS--8
SF-----8

Not a total picture, but somethiing to start with.

As for Dusty, only 3 CG's by Cubs last year. That doesn't mean that he doesn't let guys go too long sometimes though. I think he has the worst pitching instincts of any manager ever.

Easy to second guess in hindsight I know, but for every time he let someone go too deep, it seems there was a time where he pulled someone cruising in the 7th, ususally Zambrano, for Farns to blow it for.
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Postby slomo007 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:31 pm

Dmville wrote:As far as CG's go, MLB ranks the top 6 as:

Mon--11 All Livian
Oak--10
Bal----8
Cle----8
CWS--8
SF-----8

Not a total picture, but somethiing to start with.

As for Dusty, only 3 CG's by Cubs last year. That doesn't mean that he doesn't let guys go too long sometimes though. I think he has the worst pitching instincts of any manager ever.

Easy to second guess in hindsight I know, but for every time he let someone go too deep, it seems there was a time where he pulled someone cruising in the 7th, ususally Zambrano, for Farns to blow it for.


Judging from your list:

Montreal - Rocky Biddle, then Cordero
Oakland - Arthur Rhodes, led to trade for Dotel
Baltimore - Julio
Cleveland - David Riske, Betancourt, Jimenez, Wickman
CWS - Koch, Marte, Pollitte, finally Takatsu
SF - Herges

Noticing a trend? If you want CGs this year, aim for Toronto, Chi Cubs, Diamondback, Brewers, and maybe Cleveland as they have the worst closing situations and at least decent starters.
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Postby Rico The Retard » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:32 pm

haha i thought of Dusty Baker right when i saw this thread :-B
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