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Postby fantasyfiend » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:39 pm

Dont get me wrong I like Halladay, he's a great real life pitcher, but his fantasy value has limitations because of his mediocre K rate and lackluster bullpen and offense.

that 2003 season was more spectacular from a workhorse standpoint then a # standpoint. (he pitched almost 270 innings)

give barry bonds an extra 200 AB's over the competition and trust me all his quantity #'s will be above the competition as well.
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Postby fantasyfiend » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:45 pm

DK wrote:Also, 6.48 K/9 is a highly respectable #... In the top 150 of all time, which is not too shabby.


That k/9 ranked between 25-30 in the majors in '03. Definitely "respectable" but also average (especially from a fantasy standpoint)

if he was on a team with an offense he'd be a 4th round pick easily.

Right now i see him (in mocks) falling as far as the 8th, i say thats good value there.
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Postby RynoDyno » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:57 pm

fantasyfiend wrote:Right now i see him (in mocks) falling as far as the 8th, i say thats good value their.


Agreed, that is good value in the 8th there, not so much they're though, and definitely not their. My naughty big-little grammar boy!
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Postby fantasyfiend » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:03 pm

you gay boys are so precise.

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Postby HOOTIE » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:05 pm

fantasyfiend wrote:Are you seriously that retarded?

Seriously...

learn this #: career 6.48

untill you learn how to judge a persons ability to strike somebody out (do yourself a favor) and dont make a fool of yourself responding to my posts



You won't get far with that approach.

And btw, anything over 6 K per 9 is considered good. As a example, Hudson is 6.52 and falling fast. Maddux will make the HOF with a 6.27. Halladay is just fine at 6.5. Halladay is the most underrated sp. He will be among the elite.
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Postby Aggie_Eric98 » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:07 pm

Regarding Halladay, would you keep him as my 5th keeper?
I also have the 3rd pick in the 6th round so I can most likely get 2 of the 3 below.

Vlad Guerrero
Pedro Martinez
Victor Martinez
David Ortiz

Roy Halladay
Vernon Wells
Adam Dunn
Corey Patterson
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Postby so0perspam » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:08 pm

Aggie_Eric98 wrote:Regarding Halladay, would you keep him as my 5th keeper?
I also have the 3rd pick in the 6th round so I can most likely get 2 of the 3 below.

Vlad Guerrero
Pedro Martinez
Victor Martinez
David Ortiz

Roy Halladay
Vernon Wells
Adam Dunn
Corey Patterson


I'd give Halladay the slight nod over Dunn in your situation.
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Postby fantasyfiend » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:17 pm

Well ofcourse, nobody drafts maddux and hudson for strikeouts.

They bring a consistent low era, hold opponents to better BAA , and have much better control, and have been traditionally on teams with good run producing offenses and bullpens (for wins)

Now going past maddux, & hudson....keep giving me names of pitchers who have a career era under 3 and have a k/9 less then 6.50 (if we can lets keep this list exclusive to active players)
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Postby DK » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:19 pm

fantasyfiend wrote:Well ofcourse, nobody drafts maddux and hudson for strikeouts.

They bring a consistent low era, hold opponents to better BAA , and have much better control, and have been traditionally on teams with good run producing offenses and bullpens (for wins)

Now going past maddux, & hudson....keep giving me names of pitchers who have a career era under 3 and have a k/9 less then 6.50 (if we can lets keep this list exclusive to active players)


There are three active players with an ERA under 3 for their career. Try a broader search.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:22 pm

fantasyfiend wrote:Well ofcourse, nobody drafts maddux and hudson for strikeouts.

They bring a consistent low era, hold opponents to better BAA , and have much better control, and have been traditionally on teams with good run producing offenses and bullpens (for wins)

Now going past maddux, & hudson....keep giving me names of pitchers who have a career era under 3 and have a k/9 less then 6.50 (if we can lets keep this list exclusive to active players)
How many players have career ERA under 3? That would be excellent. Anyways, I think Halladay is primed for a bounceback and is good value in the 6th. I think I'd take him in the 5th round or later.
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