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Postby jimpage » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:13 am

pettite
colon
penny
sabathia
kbrown
wolf
miller
piniero

some health risks in there, i know, but if these guys are healthy no reason they shouldnt be strong
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Postby tvv44 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:40 am

Top 5:
Freddy Garcia
C.C. Sabathia
Odalis Perez
Cris Carpenter
Brad Penny

I know some people think Colon should be on this list, but I would never draft Colon again after his 1st half of last year.
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Postby mocabeenow » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:55 am

Colon - #1 LAAofA
Garcia - #1 starter in Seattle
Brown - he's good if he's pitching.
Wolf - #1 starter in Philly
Kazmir - just for his youth

honorable mention
Wells - I think he's getting better every year.
Penny - i don't like him, but he does the job.
Sabathia - Fat guys tend to pitch good by the time the season is over.
Webb - No pressure of being the best pitcher in the rotation anymore.

my butt:
Lopez - I'm an O's fan, and i wouldn't even take him.
Padilla - overrated.
Lackey - He belongs on the Pirates or Expos, not on the Angels!

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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:59 am

Colon - he shouldnt be in this group - he's still a probably the best #3 SP out there - his first half last yr was abismal, but his 2nd half was his true form.
Penny, Sabathia, and Carpenter rd out the next tier from your group. All have pretty nice upsides and shouldnt hurt you in risk too much.
I really like Pineiro this yr - I would target him and probably include him in the 2nd tier from with Penny.

There are a lot of guys on that list that I like, but consider a step below the ones i already mentioned. This includes Davis, Garcia (hate the park effect or he would be in top group), Contreras (another CHW but his ceiling is real high), KBrown (personally, I think Brown will have a monster yr, but well see), Benson, Odalis Perez (great late rd SP choice), Nate Robertson, Wade Miller (obviously health a concern, and from latest reports you better temper expectations).

The guys on that list that I wont draft -
Pettitte - still one of the most overrated SPs in fantasy - he will hurt your team before he helps it.
Rodrigo Lopez - too many better alternatives
Lilly - why?
Kazmir - still a yr away from being a significant fantasy contributer - he wont help you in '05.
Lackey - dont trust him yet - still too streaky.
Padilla - same thing - too streaky for me.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:27 pm

Top 5:
Bartolo Colon
Brad Penny
Odalis Perez
Cris Carpenter
C.C. Sabathia

Bottom 5:
Andy Pettitte
Kris Benson
Kip Wells
Doug Davis
Rodrigo Lopez
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Postby Rico The Retard » Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:34 pm

Colon
Carpenter
Penny
Perez
Kazmir

are my top 5
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