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Postby mcmahojl » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:39 am

I would move Josh Beckett down to the teir 2, and move O. Perez (Pirates) to teir 1. Beckett is overrated. Perez is to good to be mentioned with those guys in teir 2.
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Postby kidnemisis » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:43 am

I think you misread he has oliver perez in the first tier, and odalis in the 2nd tier.
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Postby Rico The Retard » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:44 am

nice rankings move kazmir out of tier 2 though cuz he hasnt established himself yet enough to be there and move smoltz outta tier 1, hes obcviously a tier 1 closer but hes a starter now and hasnt been one for a while hell have to prove himself also
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Postby Pochucker » Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:41 am

One name I dont see on the list but believe should at least be in lower list is Victor Zambrano,
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Postby Bobblehead » Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:04 am

Overall a very good list. I would move the following pitchers down a tier:

Kazmir
Cliff Lee
Lowe (shouldn't be on any list. Possibly the worst veteran SP in the game today)
Bronson Arroyo (may not even start if/when Schilling & Miller are healthy)

I would move the following pitchers up one tier:

Radke (maybe two tiers like someone else said earlier)
Doug Davis
Jaret Wright
Thomson

Remove Wakefield from the top 80

Where is Ted Lilly? He should be listed at least in the bottom group.

I think Harden is in the right group but maybe too high within that group. Unless he can cut down the walks he is just another Jeremy Bonderman.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:08 am

Solid list. But I still think that there is some hype being perpetuated here. Guys like Bonderman are at #35 while solid #2 men like Radke are down at the bottom.
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Postby rlee » Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:57 am

I think that overall, this is a pretty good list, but ranking the pitchers in groups of 20, I think, is too much. Maybe they should be in groups of 10-12. There's just too much disparity in ability be tween #1 and #20.

For example, how can you compare Santana or Johnson to Mulder? Or even Pedro or Oswalt to Mulder?

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Postby Honus » Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:03 pm

Thanks for all of the responses. I knew my list wasn't perfect at all, which is why I posted it here for your feedback. Not sure how I had Radke so low, probably because I had him a couple of years ago when he only got 9 wins and had a 4.7 ERA - but, he was injured then. It also seems that I have a few of the young, potential breakout candidates a bit too high. Anyway, thanks for all the feedback, I'll adjust it and it will make the list that much better.
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Postby rlee » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:33 pm

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