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Postby Esen » Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:01 pm

One of the leagues that I am in has holds as a stat.

WHo are the best hold guys out there.

Gordon comes to mind anyone else?

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Postby wrveres » Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:21 pm

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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:59 pm

No problem.

Since Esen seems to be new to holds, I'll add a little advice.

Holds are difficult to predict because it depends on the role the manager decides to assign. So, play close attention to Spring Training because some decisions will be made there.

There's some advantage to targeting lefty setup men, since they tend to be more likely to be among the holds leaders.

Lots of decent holders will be available on waiver wires in the league, because roles change frequently during the year. So, don't overdose on drafting holders.

If you have some concerns about your closers in the league, you might want to target a holder on his team (Valverde and Aquino on AZ, for example). That gives you a little insurance on saves.

The holder projections I posted are not the only thing I would consider. Basically, you want to target good setup guys. Here are a few, beside Gordon that I'll target:

Juan Rincon
Akinori Otsuka
Scott Linebrink
Ray King
Damaso Marte
Scot Shields
Mike Gonzalez
Alan Embree
Steve Kline
Solomon Torres
Chris Reitsma
Yhancy Brazoben
Matt Mantei
Jesse Crain
Rafeal Betancourt
Bob Howry
Brendan Donnelly
Frankie FranciscoJulan Tavarez
Luis Ayala
Joey Eischen
Antonia Osuna
Kiki Calero
Chad Bradford
Jose Valverde
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:14 pm

I wouldn't really worry with drafting holders. Like GTWMA said, there really isn't a way to predict the top holders outside of the usual suspect setup men (a handful at best). There will be plenty of holds on the ww throughout the year since it's probably the most volatile position for numerous reasons. That being said you should be able to find enough during the year to at least be competitive if not lead the league if you do your homework. ;-D
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:27 pm

SaintsOfTheDiamond wrote:I wouldn't really worry with drafting holders. Like GTWMA said, there really isn't a way to predict the top holders outside of the usual suspect setup men (a handful at best). There will be plenty of holds on the ww throughout the year since it's probably the most volatile position for numerous reasons. That being said you should be able to find enough during the year to at least be competitive if not lead the league if you do your homework. ;-D


In a league where you have lots of guys who understand holds, however, the best holders (like Gordon, King, etc.) will disappear between pick 250 and 300, usually. You can identify the top 15-25 holders, almost all of whom will rack up 15+ holds, unless they get injured or moved into a closer role. So, while you can be competitive in holds without drafting one or two of the top guys, you can't win it, unless you destroy yourself in WHIP and ERA.

Holders are also great throw-ins to even up trades in these leagues. Otsuka helped me get Derrek Lee at the end of last year from a contender who was trying to grab a few extra points in holds.
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:49 pm

GotowarMissAgnes wrote:In a league where you have lots of guys who understand holds, however, the best holders (like Gordon, King, etc.) will disappear between pick 250 and 300, usually. You can identify the top 15-25 holders, almost all of whom will rack up 15+ holds, unless they get injured or moved into a closer role. So, while you can be competitive in holds without drafting one or two of the top guys, you can't win it, unless you destroy yourself in WHIP and ERA.


I agree, but most of the leagues I'm in that count holds, they're just a throw in stat to balance out the BB's for hitters so it's 6x6 and not 6x5. :-D I was talking mainly about those type of leagues, not the ones you are referring to.....I think. :-o
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:31 pm

In our league it's 6x6 and it balances out OPS on the offensive side, and holds are very competitive. We had just 11 holds between 2nd place and 11th place in our 16 team league last year. Good holders get snatched up quickly.
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