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Postby Woolly » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:36 pm

Has anyone heard anything about players shrinking this Spring?

Last year Giambi came to spring training and was much smaller. He was obviously off the juice and had a terrible year. Sammy is another player that shrunk in recent memory and hasn't been the same.

After all the Roids talk this offseason, I expect to see a few players "mysteriously" shrink this spring. My hypothesis is that these players could see a large drop in their offensive production. However, I won't stop there. Just because we are talking about hitters doesn't mean that pitchers haven't dabbled in the juice too. If their are pitchers that shrink, I would keep an eye on them as well. (except for players like CC Sabathia and David Wells -- they could shrink and it might be for the better)

I was hoping that we could get a list started of guys that were much smaller this spring. I would make sure to stay away from those guys.
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Postby DannyMyron89 » Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:39 pm

well i dont know much people this year who shrunk except for bagwell, but hes been shrinking for the past three years or so now...
how did colon win the cy young??

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Postby RugbyD » Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:03 pm

shrinking and roids are not necessarily codependent events. Helton has shrunk, but its because bulking up didn't help him last year. Javy lopez shrunk the winter beofre his monster year. Larry walker shrunk beofre last year and had a great season for how much he played. sosa hasn't really shrunk much, but his skills have diminished b/c he's old and stupidly stubborn. there's not going to be much to read into on this issue.
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Postby ScurvyDog » Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:57 pm

Paul white (at a Fantasy Baseball seminar) "hinted" at the incredibile shrinking Mike Piazza and Marcus Giles. We'll see ...
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Postby riverrat » Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:01 pm

They cant legally say his name but Chi-town sports talk 'hinted' that Gagne was on the juice. He'll look thinner this year. Cant wait to see a pic from ST of him.
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Postby Nomar4prez » Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:41 pm

riverrat wrote:They cant legally say his name but Chi-town sports talk 'hinted' that Gagne was on the juice. He'll look thinner this year. Cant wait to see a pic from ST of him.


Gagne?....I guess steriods help with a changeup?
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Postby RugbyD » Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:48 pm

riverrat wrote:They cant legally say his name but Chi-town sports talk 'hinted' that Gagne was on the juice. He'll look thinner this year. Cant wait to see a pic from ST of him.


he was fat to begin with. may be something, may not.
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Postby Esen » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:21 pm

Well I think that last year was the effects of Brett Boone leaving the juice from the 2 years bebore.

He would seem like a classic example. but of course it is all speculation
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Postby riverrat » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:28 pm

Nomar,
I only pass along and share what I hear. Believe what you will.
If the juice makes you stronger then w/o it his 95+ fastball isnt gonna be the same....is it?
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Postby Woolly » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:47 am

Esen wrote:Well I think that last year was the effects of Brett Boone leaving the juice from the 2 years bebore.

He would seem like a classic example. but of course it is all speculation


Yeah, Brett Boone was one of the ones that Jose was calling out in his little interview.

I think steriods can help with any part of your game. Pitching or hitting. More strength is more strength. Any pitch requires strength.

Also there are two kinds of shrinking. One is getting leaner and meaner which is a good thing on most counts. Just plain old "mysterious" shrinking is the main concern of mine. Lopez was clearly a case of just getting himself in shape for a contract year.

Let me see so far on the maybe's

*Gagne - Chi-town Sports talk
*Boone - we all knew he was on the way down from a few years ago
*Bagwell - we all knew he was on the way down from a few years ago
*Piazza - Paul White Fantasy Baseball seminar
*Giles - Paul White Fantasy Baseball seminar


I didn't like most of these guys anyway, so staying away from them is pretty easy. However, I did like Giles, so I will have to get a better look at him to make sure.
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