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Tim Hudson vs. Carlos Zambrano

Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:44 am

I have seen a lot of people ranking Hudson over C-Zam and I am wondering why? Is this based mostly on Mazzone? Is it a fear of C-Zam breaking down?

They seem very similar to me number wise except I expect more K's out of Zambrano. Hudson just seems overrated to me.
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Postby Dmville » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:51 am

It probably has something to do with ATL being very good at recognizing pitching talent. Not a huge Hudson fan, but if ATL wentout and got him, that boosts my opinion of him a bit.

That being said, I like Zam better.
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Postby pokerplaya » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:56 am

Dmville wrote:It probably has something to do with ATL being very good at recognizing pitching talent. Not a huge Hudson fan, but if ATL wentout and got him, that boosts my opinion of him a bit.

That being said, I like Zam better.


I think Hudson will be great in ATL. That said, I'd still take Zambrano over him because of the better K rate.

Hudson is going to be ridiculously efficient, and I wouldn't be suprised if he ended up a Cy young contender. Just don't expect 200 k's.
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Postby RugbyD » Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:59 am

W, ERA, and WHIP will balance out about even. K's go to Carlos by a mile.
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Postby LBJackal » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:19 pm

Here's my projections for each of them:

Zam....: 15-9, 3.09 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 197 K's
Hudson: 16-9, 3.11 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 152 K's

So yeah, they're very close to each other in everything but K's. Hudson is more of a sure thing though, and Zam might start allowing HR's which Wrigley is notorious for. Other than that I see no reason that Zam shoudln't be taken before Hudson.
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Postby Rico The Retard » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:24 pm

i like Zambrano a little more cuz theyll be identical probably in most cats except CZam will get you a lot more K's
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Postby brandnew » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:26 pm

Huddy with Leo is a scary combination...

You'll probably see his K rate drop, but everything else will improve, including his W's, the Bullpen in ATL is better than in Oakland. There are some dark horse guys in there for very solid years.
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Postby RugbyD » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:30 pm

LBJackal wrote: and Zam might start allowing HR's which Wrigley is notorious for.


There's a reason he hasn't already, he won't. His pitching style prevents it. Nobody can lift that sinker into the stands and even his mistakes are difficult to sky. He gives up and equal number of HRs home and away.
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Postby Lofunzo » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:33 pm

FWIW, the positional rankings that I compiled here listed Hudson as #9 and Zambrano at #17. 8-o That is the average of 20 rankers.
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Postby LBJackal » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:33 pm

Oakland has Dotel, Calero, Duke, and Bradford. Atlanta has Kolb. I think Oakland has the clear advantage in bullpen. Not that Hudson won't be great, but in Oakland is was more bad luck than anything for why he lost so many wins.
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