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Postby Zito is God » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:30 pm

Lets look into closers this time around, you know how this works.

Toss Up: Trevor Hoffman / Danny Kolb
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Postby foulballstrike3 » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:36 pm

Neither one of em are K artists to say the least, but Hoffman will get you an extra K per week. I like the Pads this year:
Hoffman 40 SVS 2.20 ERA 1.00 WHIP 65 K
Kolb 40 SVS 2.70 ERA 1.10 WHIP 30 K

So about equal in saves, but Hoffman is just a more fearsome pitcher.
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Postby NZF » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:43 pm

Gotta go with Hoffman on this one. They both should get plenty of saves (maybe 40 plus), I just see Hoffman giving you more in the other categories.
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Postby mtarail » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:17 pm

I agreee. I'd give Hoffman a slight edge with the K's.

But I'd be very happy to get either guy. Remember, Smoltz got 55 saves a few years ago, and the Braves could give Kolb a ton of save opps this year.
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Postby Rico The Retard » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:21 pm

once again both are good and i wouldnt mind having either but i gotta go with Hoffman because he has been a dominant top closer forever and even now he is still top tier plus kolb's k/9 is horrible and i would like a closer that at least gets ya some k's
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Postby logan » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:21 pm

i think this one definetly comes down to the rest of your staff . if you already have enough sp's or mr's that will get you a good number of k's you could really grab either one since neither will hurt your ratio's.

so i think i would go with kolb since the braves i believe,as mtarail said, will give him plenty of opps. they just have an all around better team pitching and hitting wise. but you really cant go worng with either and it all comes down to your staff on a wholei think.
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Postby CubsFan7724 » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:25 pm

Save opps are too finicky to predict. Predictings Ks and WHIP, and ERA usually for closers are more consistent from year to year. Hoffman should beat him across the board on those, so go with him. Though since I just purchased Otsuka for $3 I hope he gets hurt in spring training. For a long time.
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:33 pm

I'm with Cubsfans on this one. Figuring actual save numbers year to year is a craps shoot, so I like guys with the ERA, K/9 and WHIP ... as cited above, Hoffman runs the table. And he's in a favorable park. That's my pick.
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Postby umcsom » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:33 pm

I am scared about hoffman's health. That is the only reason I would pick Kolb. I think he is the safer choice. Depends on if you need to take the chance I guess.
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Postby Absolutely Adequate » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:48 pm

I have them placed very close to one another. I'd take Kolb overall, though. I think he'll have a higher era and whip and fewer strikeouts. But I think he'll have a decided advantage in saves - which is, after all, the only reason you'd draft either one.
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