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Postby mocabeenow » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:00 pm

You can bump up Kazmir a lot. He'll be gone before you can blink.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:13 pm

I think Prior is too low - He's no more an injury risk than anyone else IMO - therefore he's solely behind RJ and Sanatana with Schmidt a close 4th.

Id rate Pedro who I see having a great season just ahead of Sheets.

There is a noticeable dropoff after the 7th SP.

Harden is ranked too high - he'd fall just after Mussina to me.

I think Colon could go up about 5 spots.

Id bump Clement up about 5 spots.

Id move Greinke up about 10-15 spots.

I would drop Pettitte at least 30 spots - at a minimum.

I think I might actually move Arroyo up a bit - Im warming to him.

Id move Pineiro up 5 to 10 places

Jaret Wright, Lieber, Dontrelle, and Zito are all too high.

Just a little feedback.
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Postby Doc19 » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:22 pm

Everyone is going to have a different opinion here, especially when you throw at an admirable list with 100 names... Here is my own two cents, but overall an excellent compilation:

--Peavy and Oswalt ahead of Ol Perez
--Harden drop 3-4 spots
--Vazquez drop 5-10 spots
--Greinke up 10, Pettitte down 10
--Kazmir up 25 spots
--Haren up 15-20 spots

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Postby Rico The Retard » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:23 pm

very nice list, i almost agree with everything in the top 30
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Postby Dubjay » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:28 pm

Nice observations. I am just hoping to get a little more feedback and then I will start altering the list.
I agree w/Harden. I don't know how he ended up that high.
I also agree w/Pineiro getting bumped up.
Peavy and Oswalt ahead of Perez sound about right to me.
Lets keep 'em coming ;-)
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Postby Dubjay » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:13 pm

Bump.
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Postby DannyMyron89 » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:32 pm

my only thing besides bonderman is i would put schilling one ahead of pedro...other then that good list
how did colon win the cy young??

the world is comming to an end...woody paige has a Hall of Fame vote
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Postby Skippyoz » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:58 pm

Lower Kevin Brown a spot or two. He seems like he can't handle NY, plus he's on the wrong side of 35 and has shown injury troubles in the past few years.

For instance, I'd rather have Russ Ortiz, who walks a lot, but wins games and gets some K's. He averages 200 IP over the past 6 seasons, has shown ability to have an under 4 ERA, and has won 14+ games 6 years in a row.
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Postby davidmarver » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:58 pm

Sabathia and Milton are too high, but it's a good list.
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