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Postby Melo255 » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:51 pm

ScurvyDog wrote:A lot of poeple have been forecasting the demise of Mariano for a few years, but he continues to produce.

I agree that this year won't be as good as last couple - his skills will decline - just when?

My top tier includes KRod, Foulke, Gagne, Dotel, Wagner


Take out Dotel insert Lidge and it's not bad.
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Re: Rating the 2nd tier closers

Postby davidmarver » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:51 pm

Joe LaCock wrote:Hey Guys,
Help me rank these guys:
Foulke, Hoffman, Izzy, Benetez, Nathan, Cordero.
Thanks. Joe


From a fantasy standpoint:
Nathan, Foulke, Hoffman, Benitez, Isringhausen, Cordero.

In real baseball:
Hoffman, Foulke, Nathan, Isringhausen, Benitez, Cordero.

Nathan and Foulke's ERA and WHIP will figure more into your team's ERA and WHIP because they pitch more innings, however Hoffman is a lock for 40 saves.

You cannot place another one of these closers over Hoffman in real life, however. He has the second best save percentage of all-time behind only Eric Gagne.
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Postby TB13 » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:59 pm

[quote="ScurvyDog"]A lot of poeple have been forecasting the demise of Mariano for a few years, but he continues to produce.

I agree that this year won't be as good as last couple - his skills will decline - just when?
[/quote]
Agreed. The rumors of Mariano's decline has been greately exagerated. When all is said and done, he is still a top 5 closer in the game.
Foulke
Benitez
Nathan
Izzy
Hoffman
Cordero
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Postby tiger spit » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:13 pm

i think you can add kolb to that list with him in atlanta..
the guy had a ton of saves in MIL last year. with that rotation he should be 40+.. yes, he has low K totals but braves Closers have always been a sought after comodity.
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:27 pm

New Zealand Fan wrote:None of those guys are really second tier pitchers. The second tier starts after the Top 10 or so.


Ah, finally, the voice of reason. When I saw '2nd tier' and then pulled up your list, my first thought was you must play in a 6-team league.

Anyhow,
Hoffman
FCordero
Benitez
Nathan
Foulke
Isringhausen
CCordero

(Foulke might be higher, but I'm partial to the K)
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Postby Pokey » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:30 pm

Nathan
Foulke
Cordero
Benitez
Isringhausen
Hoffman
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Re: Rating the 2nd tier closers

Postby brandnew » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:37 pm

I'd go:

Nathan
Foulke
Cordero
Hoffman
Izzy
Benitez

I'd say that Nathan, Cordero, Foulke, and Hoffman are all first tier closers...
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Postby stumpak » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:25 am

Kolb is in no way in the top tier of fantasy closers. As you mentioned he has an atrocious K rate. But more importantly the guy is still not proven in my book. Look at his second half numbers, he was crap. I don't understand how people elevate him to being such a sure thing based solely on a good performance for the first three months of last season.
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Postby SHOCKandAWE » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:28 am

redsoxdoubledigits wrote:I can't even answer the question properly because your facts are wrong in the first place if you're labeling Keith Foulke as a 2nd tier closer. After what he did in the post-season last year, as well as the regular season, I dont understand why he's not considered one of the best in the game now


Red Sox Fan? Biased?
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Postby jeff926 » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:42 am

Foulke
Cordero
Benitez
Hoffman
Isringhausen
Nathan
you heard it here...
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Felix Hernandez = 35 wins, 400K!
i can dream...
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