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Rating the 2nd tier closers

Postby Joe LaCock » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:02 pm

Hey Guys,
Help me rank these guys:
Foulke, Hoffman, Izzy, Benetez, Nathan, Cordero.
Thanks. Joe
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Postby Yin_Xu88 » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:06 pm

Cordero
Nathan
Foulke
Izzy
Hoffman
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Re: Rating the 2nd tier closers

Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:12 pm

Joe LaCock wrote:Hey Guys,
Help me rank these guys:
Foulke, Hoffman, Izzy, Benetez, Nathan, Cordero.
Thanks. Joe


Nathan -- I've heard talk he may not have the job all year, but unless the wheels completely fall off I wouldn't worry much in '05.
Foulke -- May not have the K totals, but should rack up 30+ saves and have a very nice ERA.
Cordero -- If it's Francisco. If not, bump him down.....a lot.
Benitez -- Very unerrated closer, '04 not withstanding.
Hoffman -- Injury is a concern IMO, but if he's healthy he could easily be No. 1 on this list
Izzy -- Injuries are a huge concern here too. He will have a good amount of save totals, but the injury risk knocks him down 2-3 spots IMO.
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Postby redsoxdoubledigits » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:14 pm

I can't even answer the question properly because your facts are wrong in the first place if you're labeling Keith Foulke as a 2nd tier closer. After what he did in the post-season last year, as well as the regular season, I dont understand why he's not considered one of the best in the game now
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Postby ScurvyDog » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:15 pm

Foulke
Cordero
Benitez
Nathan
Izzy
Hoffman

Foulke is not a second tier closer in my mind.
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Postby redsoxdoubledigits » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:19 pm

I'll tell you one guy who will fall into the 2nd Tier this year will be Mr.Cutter of the New York Yankees, this year will be the begininning of his demise
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Postby ScurvyDog » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:22 pm

A lot of poeple have been forecasting the demise of Mariano for a few years, but he continues to produce.

I agree that this year won't be as good as last couple - his skills will decline - just when?

My top tier includes KRod, Foulke, Gagne, Dotel, Wagner
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Postby redsoxdoubledigits » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:24 pm

krod still has a lot to prove before he's put in that category
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Postby The Kavorka » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:43 pm

Foulke is not a 2nd tier closer.

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Postby NZF » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:50 pm

None of those guys are really second tier pitchers. The second tier starts after the Top 10 or so. I think all those guys are close to Top 10 and two or three are very close to Top 5.

My order would be

Foulke
Hoffman
Nathan
Cordero
Benetiz
Isringhausen

I believe the biggest injury concern in that group by far is Izzy.
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