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Postby sockeye » Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:58 pm

I thought Mays was supposed to be the top contender for #5 in the MN rotation? not arguing, just trying to be sure - can you please clarify re: Mullholland, Balfour, Mays, etc:

My understanding:
1 - Santana
2 - Radke
3 - Silva
4 - Lohse
5 - Mays
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Postby looptid » Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:38 pm

Mays had a whole slew of elbow problems before going under the knife for Tommy John Surgery. He also had a couple setbacks during his rehab late last summer. He only recently began throwing from a mound again. Supposedly, he will be ready when camp opens, but I think that's overly optomistic. There is no guarentee he'll be pitching competatively come April, and he still has to win a spot on the major league roster. I doubt he'll be as effective as either Balfour or Baker. Of course, the Twins are notorious for stranding good, young players in long relief or the minors for overextended periods of time, so it is possible either Balfour, Baker, or even the darkhorse Durbin could have to watch some stiff like Mays or Mulholland get beaten like they stole something every fifth day.

One plus to Balfour, is that if he isn't in the rotation, he'll definately be in the pen, posting more than a strike-out an inning. Well worth the last pick in a draft, or a $1 bid at auction.
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Postby thaklanksta » Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:42 pm

Backe, Santos, and the Afformentioned ----Capellan, Francis, and Ankiel
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Postby davidmarver » Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:24 pm

fantasyfiend wrote:5 innings = win

A's offense has been upgraded considerably.
A's bullpen has been upgraded tremendously.

now, if haren pitches good enough to make it on a "draftable sleeper pitcher" list...how does this equate to marginal win totals; with a large upgrade to an offense that was able to lead the A's to 91 victories a season ago?

and for the record i would hardly call haren a K pitcher anyway...
his minor league K #'s were strong at 8.77 but converting that number to the majors puts him just about where he is now with a career k/9 at 5.69

based off that #, if he averages 5-6 innings over the course of the year, you'll get roughly 3K's/game. (3 being "high" adding in potential/progression)

If we wanted to find some real K sleepers we could do alot better than haren.

Haren is more aptly a "win" sleeper than a "K" sleeper.


I wouldn't say the bullpen has been upgraded that significantly. They lost Hammond, their ERA leader from a year ago, who also was a left-hander. True, they did add some quality arms but without Mulder and Hudson to eat up innings the bullpen will be used more, negating any increase in talent.
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Postby sappisgod » Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:53 pm

brandnew wrote:Ever heard of Eric Chavez?

And since when has batting average counted? Especially in Oakland!


I did mention guys hitting for over .290 how could I forget about Chavez? The guy with the whopping .277 career average who hit .276 last year. Most definitely a candidate for the batting title. I was talking about guys who needed to step it up and guys who would probably hit over .290. Chavez fell under neither category. You must've been too cool for school because you definitely didn't follow. :-t
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Postby davidmarver » Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:12 pm

sappisgod wrote:
brandnew wrote:Ever heard of Eric Chavez?

And since when has batting average counted? Especially in Oakland!


I did mention guys hitting for over .290 how could I forget about Chavez? The guy with the whopping .277 career average who hit .276 last year. Most definitely a candidate for the batting title. I was talking about guys who needed to step it up and guys who would probably hit over .290. Chavez fell under neither category. You must've been too cool for school because you definitely didn't follow. :-t


Well if Sapp is God, then Chavez could hit .290 ;-D
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Postby SHOCKandAWE » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:31 pm

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Postby wkelly91 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:12 pm

KD9 2ND HALF

11.07 KAZMIR
9.75 PEAVY
9.55 BURNETT, AJ
9.37 MILLWOOD
9.3 CLEMENT
9.28 PATTERSON
9.04 LEE
9.03 CLEMENS
9 CAPUANO
8.95 MUSSINA
8.93 HERNANDEZ, O.
8.7 GARCIA
8.6 LACKEY
8.5 BONDERMAN
8.46 BEDARD
8.27 DAVIS, D.
8.1 PINEIRO
7.85 WRIGHT, J.
7.8 BACKE
7.79 CONTRARES
7.68 WILLIAMS, D.
7.62 FLOYD
7.6 SABATHIA
7.57 WEBB
7.48 ARROYO
7.48 MILTON
7.36 BORKOWSKI
7.28 RILEY
7.23 EATON
7.11 LILLY
7.08 HUDSON
7.07 PETITTE
7.07 LOWRY
6.98 HARDEN
6.98 WILLIAMS, W.
6.97 COLON
6.97 HARANG
6.93 LOAIZA
6.92 JACKSON, E.
6.8 HAREN
6.78 VASQUEZ
6.77 LIETER
6.69 YOUNG, C.
6.58 SANTOS
6.52 MORRIS
6.51 LOPEZ, R.
6.5 WELLS, K.
6.5 ISHII
6.46 BYRD
6.45 ARMAS
6.38 GONZALEZ, E.
6.34 HERNANDEZ, L.
6.31 PADILLA
6.28 BENSON
6.27 GRIENKE
6.22 ROBERTSON,N.
6.19 MECHE
6.17 LIEBER
6.14 MADRITSCH
6.14 BROWN
6.14 CLAUSSEN
6.1 ACEVEDO
6.09 ELARTON
6.08 HENDRICKSON,M.
6.07 BUSH
6.07 JOHNSON,J.
6.07 JENNINGS
6.04 CHEN
6 LOWE

Doug Davis is my sleeper here....he increased his KD9 to 8.27 2nd half. ;-D
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Postby mtarail » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:42 pm

Good post, Wally ;-D

If Bonderman still counts as a sleeper, then yup. He could get you a lot of K's. I also like these guys late in a draft:

Weaver
Webb
Pineiro
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