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Postby davidmarver » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:50 am

TheYanks04 wrote:Wouldn't D. Wells and Lieber be better options for starters over Woody and errr Brown? And then their is Pettitte.

Worrell Over Linebrick?


Jon Leiber?!? Hahaha. That was good.

Linebrink's numbers were far far better than Worrell, except saves, but with Wagner back, Worrell shouldn't be in line for many.
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:55 am

I heard Adams was the closer :-? I think he has the job until somebody takes it form him. Bottalico isn't exactly "good" as they say, so I don't think he'll have it any time soon. But there is uncertainty with Adams. However that's also the reason that a team's closer who had a pretty good year is still available in the 19th round to begin with.

And Pettitte... I'll go look for the article, but it said he'd be out the first month. Here it is (from Newsday.com):

a source insists that Andy Pettitte's elbow won't be ready until at least a month into the season. Pettitte's time together with Clemens may be short indeed.


As for who the source is, I don't know. But it's enough to make me worried about him, especially considering he's a mediocre lefty pitcher whose home park has a left field wall that half the kids in Williamsport could knock 30 HR's over.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:26 am

LBJackal wrote:I heard Adams was the closer :-? I think he has the job until somebody takes it form him. Bottalico isn't exactly "good" as they say, so I don't think he'll have it any time soon. But there is uncertainty with Adams. However that's also the reason that a team's closer who had a pretty good year is still available in the 19th round to begin with.

And Pettitte... I'll go look for the article, but it said he'd be out the first month. Here it is (from Newsday.com):

a source insists that Andy Pettitte's elbow won't be ready until at least a month into the season. Pettitte's time together with Clemens may be short indeed.


As for who the source is, I don't know. But it's enough to make me worried about him, especially considering he's a mediocre lefty pitcher whose home park has a left field wall that half the kids in Williamsport could knock 30 HR's over.


For what it is worth, Rotoworld had this to say about the Bottalico signing:
Brewers signed RHP Ricky Bottalico, who had been with the Mets, to a one-year, $800,000 contract.
He can made an additional $475,000 in performance bonuses. At the moment, Bottalico has to be considered the favorite to close for Milwaukee, though he won't simply be handed the job. Mike Adams is currently the top candidate to compete with him. Another quality veteran could be brought in.

Bottalico does blow and everyone except theBrewers seem to know it. Still, that closer situation looks like it is completely up in the air right now.
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Postby FatGuyWithAMullet » Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:04 am

I'd go with Lieber and King.
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Postby ukrneal » Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:28 am

Well, I might go with Westbrook then. I don't really think it matters, since you can always pick up the hot hand with pitching. Westbrook had a nice season, which may or may not be repeated. But he's young and on an up and coming team. He'll have some solid offense behind him and a year of experience under his belt. He's probably not an injury risk.

Pettitte is probably your best bet at the moment, though I understand your concern. I also find the Morris choice intriguing. Same with J Wright if it's late enough.

Finally, I would focus on starters. Most holds guys are not consistent from year to year. And there are always surprises.
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Postby trevisc » Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:36 am

I like Kevin Brown out of all of those
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Postby red_sox_fan2004 » Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:11 am

When Petite is healthy he's one of the top 15-20 pitchers in the leauge, unlike the rest of those pitchers you guys have listed.
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Postby slomo007 » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:36 am

Even if Pettitte is healthy, he is a 3 category pitcher at best, and that's assuming he gets the run support he needs to help you in wins. His WHIP will actually hurt you, and that is even during a healthy year....I'm afraid of what it could do if he isn't 100%. I am steering clear at all costs. He is very comparable to Russ Ortiz with a few more Ks IMO.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:53 am

red_sox_fan2004 wrote:When Petite is healthy he's one of the top 15-20 pitchers in the leauge, unlike the rest of those pitchers you guys have listed.


I think Pettitte is trash and wouldnt touch him in any league. I dont like players that have NEGATIVE value I guess.

As for your hatred of KB, Yanks - I think you should forgive him and move on. Im real sorry he let your team down with his hand injury last yr, but the guy is the class of the list you have - easily.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:28 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:
red_sox_fan2004 wrote:When Petite is healthy he's one of the top 15-20 pitchers in the leauge, unlike the rest of those pitchers you guys have listed.


I think Pettitte is trash and wouldnt touch him in any league. I dont like players that have NEGATIVE value I guess.

As for your hatred of KB, Yanks - I think you should forgive him and move on. Im real sorry he let your team down with his hand injury last yr, but the guy is the class of the list you have - easily.


Forgive him...that is not going to happen. EVER.

I obviously hate the guy, but bias aside, I hardly understand the love for a 40 something SP who has a bad back, lost velocity to the point where he was barely making 90 on his fastball last year and who is a stupid moron on top of it all. There is a reason he survives til round 19.

I rather take my chances with David Wells. Fat boy gets the job done as long as his back holds up, which is more than you can say for Brown with his parasites, hand punching, bad back and whatever other sort of ailments and mental inadequacies he rings up.
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