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Postby paulman8 » Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:15 am

Just made a few can compare and contrast...Im assuming that this is just for this season, not keeper...if its keeper, then a few of these will be way off.

1. Johan Santana
2. Randy Johnson
3. Jason Schmidt
4. Curt Schilling
5. Mark Prior
6. Roy Oswalt
7. Ben Sheets
8. Tim Hudson
9. Pedro Martinez
10. Jake Peavy
11. Mark Mulder
12. Roger Clemens
13. Carlos Zambrano
14. Oliver Perez
15. Kerry Wood
16. Roy Halladay
17. Mike Mussina
18. Barry Zito
19. Josh Beckett
20. AJ Burnett
Seeing as the Braves have won 12 division titles in a row, does that mean that soon they are going to have to start making columns as well???
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Postby Rico The Retard » Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:21 am

davidmarver wrote:Zambrano over Peavy is laughable.

not to start anything man, but u are such a homer

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Postby Registered_Guest » Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:44 am

davidmarver wrote:Zambrano over Peavy is laughable.


How bout a full 200 inning season from him first??
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Postby rlee » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:51 am


Kevin Brown at #20?????????? Did you fall on a bar of soap, or something and hit your head? Wow! I haven't seen him much below #50 on many lists.
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Postby quicksilver8 » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:02 am

Oliver Perez is a high risk high reward player. He plays on a crappy team, so he might be lucky to get 10 wins. I tend to avoid risk, so I would favor a Roger Clemens over an Oliver Perez. Also, I don't think RJ will start more than 25 games this year, which would move him down my list. There was a whole other thread about Zambrano vs. Peavy (an entertaining thread too!).
Zambrano is less risky in my opinion.
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Postby lbbaseball14 » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:10 am


Schmidt at 7 below Martinez?? you've lost your marbles
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Postby looptid » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:29 am

Pitches per Start in 2004
1. Jason Schmidt - 112.7
2. Livan Hernandez - 112.1
3. Carlos Zambrano - 112.0
4. Al Leiter - 108.2

I'd say Zambrano carries as much risk as most. That's a pretty heavy workload for a 23 year-old. He is also fairly inefficient as a pitcher, and among that top three (before the next tier begins with Leiter), Zambrano averaged the fewest innings pitched per start.
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Postby cody4548 » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:32 am

jeff926 wrote:why does no one think that roger clemens is going to be good this year? boggles the mind. in my opinion rocket has to be in the top 10 at the least. i know that prior has good stuff, but i take it from the stance, "what have you done for me lately", and i think that rj should be #1.

If he has a good year, he will have a record # of shutouts. The locals around here are not at all excited about the bats. If Houston as a team does anything at all this year it will be all because of the pitching staff. It's just hard to see where there going to get any offense from.
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:23 pm

As to YankeeFan's original list here:

I could quibble with individual spots, but overall your top 20 contains most of the guys I'd have in there. The two exceptions are Harden, who I think is getting a shade too much hype this offseason, and Mulder, who I confess a personal distaste for after he killed me in Aug-Sept.

Instead, I'd add Vazquez, who should be primed for a bounce-back with the move out of NY and into the NL, and Radke (especially since your focus is on ERA and WHIP).
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Postby MrT » Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:08 pm

Carl Pavano may disagree with your ratings
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