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Postby NY Yankees Fan 2004 » Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:18 pm

I have been working on my SP rankings. I started them in November and havent looked at them in Decmeber and January.
Ive updated it slightly in the past few days. I plan on Ranking the top 100 (if I get a chance)

What do you think of my Rankings so far?

1. Johan Santana
2. Randy Johnson
3. Jason Schmidt
4. Mark Prior
5. Curt Schilling
6. Roy Oswalt
7. Tim Hudson
8. Ben Sheets
9. Pedro Martinez
10. Carlos Zambrano
11. Jake Peavy
12. Oliver Perez
13. Roy Halladay
14. Roger Clemens
15. Kerry Wood
16. AJ Burnett
17. Mike Mussina
18. Rich Harden
19. Mark Mulder
20. Josh Beckett
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Postby NZF » Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:44 pm

Not too much argument with the first two although personally I see Randy as a clear No. 1. I wouldn't have Schmidt as high as No. 3 or Hudson as high as 7. Pedro is far too low at 9. I've got him at No. 4 behind RJ, Prior and Santana.

Asides from the order (especially Top 10) overall you've pretty much got the same 20 as me. The only exceptions are that I've got Colon and Vazquez in there ahead of Harden and Mussina.
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Re: My top 20 SP rankings

Postby irishdude103 » Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:45 pm

NY Yankees Fan 2004 wrote:I have been working on my SP rankings. I started them in November and havent looked at them in Decmeber and January.
Ive updated it slightly in the past few days. I plan on Ranking the top 100 (if I get a chance)

What do you think of my Rankings so far?

1. Johan Santana
2. Randy Johnson
3. Jason Schmidt
4. Mark Prior
5. Curt Schilling
6. Roy Oswalt
7. Tim Hudson
8. Ben Sheets
9. Pedro Martinez
10. Carlos Zambrano
11. Jake Peavy
12. Oliver Perez
13. Roy Halladay
14. Roger Clemens
15. Kerry Wood
16. AJ Burnett
17. Mike Mussina
18. Rich Harden
19. Mark Mulder
20. Josh Beckett


imo, Johsnon is 3rd, Pedro is a bit high imo, not a big fan of his and finally i think Clemens should be behind Wood and AJ

just my 2 cents, everything else i like
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Postby warrick95 » Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:49 pm

Johan Santana
Randy Johnson
Mark Prior
Pedro Martinez
Roy Oswalt
Curt Schilling
Jason Schmidt
Tim Hudson
Roy Halladay
Kerry Wood
Mark Mulder
Josh Beckett
Ben Sheets
Carlos Zambrano
Oliver Perez
Mike Mussina
Jake Peavy
Roger Clemens
Rich Harden
Kevin Brown

Here's my top 20 if you want to compare.......
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Postby Rico The Retard » Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:57 pm

i actually like your list a lot NY, it is very similar to mine except i would move halladay down and switch sheets with hudson
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Postby orange12 » Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:04 pm

Not bad but you seem to have a tendency to overrate some players just based on the reputation of their stuff alone. I'm mainly talking about some of the younger players like Perez, Burnett, and Harden who have shown flashes of brilliance. No doubt these guys have some serious upside but I would never take someone like Oliver Perez over Clemens or Mulder. Nor would I even include Burnett or Harden in the top 20. In fact, I would pick Zito, Pavano, Colon, Buerhle, Ortiz, and Morris before I even touch the often injured Burnett. Not to mention Zito still has the best stuff in Oakland in my mind and would rank higher than Harden any day.

Another thing to be careful of is Schmidt and Prior. If they get 32-34 solid starts, than they most likely will post better numbers than Schilling. But that's a shaky "if" considering neither pitcher has shown they can string together two back to back seasons with over 30 starts within the past five years. Schilling on the other hand is a rock and might get better after getting one year of experience in the AL. But its really a toss up between these three. What does everyone else think about this?
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Postby davidmarver » Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:44 pm

Zambrano over Peavy is laughable.
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Re: My top 20 SP rankings

Postby Yoda » Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:45 pm

NY Yankees Fan 2004 wrote:What do you think of my Rankings so far?

1. Johan Santana
2. Randy Johnson
3. Jason Schmidt
4. Mark Prior
5. Curt Schilling
6. Roy Oswalt
7. Tim Hudson
8. Ben Sheets
9. Pedro Martinez
10. Carlos Zambrano
11. Jake Peavy
12. Oliver Perez
13. Roy Halladay
14. Roger Clemens
15. Kerry Wood
16. AJ Burnett
17. Mike Mussina
18. Rich Harden
19. Mark Mulder
20. Josh Beckett


Solid list. I would move the Rocket into top 10 and move Hudson out. I am concerned about possible workload issues with Huddy. Everyone doubted Clemens in 04 and they are doubting him again this season. Don't be the doubter. Until I see him down and out, I can't count him out. He'll get 'em out on guts alone.
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Postby NY Yankees Fan 2004 » Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:18 pm

Thanks for the responses. I appreciate it!

For some reason I am really high on Hudson this year. I just think that the combination of switching to the NL + Leo Mazole = great year and a run at the NL Cy young.

I value ERA and WHIP above win potetial. (I play in a roto league)

Looking back at my rankings- Im not so sure about Ollie at #12. I might have to edit that.

IMO, Colon, Morris, Ortiz are ERA killers. And those are guys on my avoid list.


Obviously everyone has there own personal opinions, but it is great to be able to post in a forum and get great advice from others ;-D
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Postby jeff926 » Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:44 am

why does no one think that roger clemens is going to be good this year? boggles the mind. in my opinion rocket has to be in the top 10 at the least. i know that prior has good stuff, but i take it from the stance, "what have you done for me lately", and i think that rj should be #1.
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