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Why is projected value of Angel Berroa so high?

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Why is projected value of Angel Berroa so high?

Postby crapshooter on Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:54 pm

After all this guy got sent to the minors last season. I see where some services have him at around $16 value.
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Postby Members Only Jackets on Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:57 pm

I was thinking the same thing....I've seen him go high in a few mocks. Why?
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Postby LBJackal on Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:29 pm

Unless I'm in an AL only league, I'm avoiding him. Bad player, bad team, bad park. What's to like?
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Postby free on Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:29 pm

LBJackal wrote:Unless I'm in an AL only league, I'm avoiding him. Bad player, bad team, bad park. What's to like?



thought he was overrated last year at this time. too many k's spell trouble most of the time :-]
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Postby TheYanks04 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:28 am

LBJackal wrote:Unless I'm in an AL only league, I'm avoiding him. Bad player, bad team, bad park. What's to like?


Come on now...an AL Rookie of the year over Hideki Matsui is a stiff? Who would have thunk?

Oh yeah, the rules got bent to suit the anti-Yankee crowd or he never would have won in the first place...What is good for Suzuki is apparantly not good for Matsui. How many of those writers look like fools now?
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Postby Tavish on Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:42 am

TheYanks04 wrote:
LBJackal wrote:Unless I'm in an AL only league, I'm avoiding him. Bad player, bad team, bad park. What's to like?


Come on now...an AL Rookie of the year over Hideki Matsui is a stiff? Who would have thunk?

Oh yeah, the rules got bent to suit the anti-Yankee crowd or he never would have won in the first place...What is good for Suzuki is apparantly not good for Matsui. How many of those writers look like fools now?


Angel deserved the ROY award. I know it seems like a crime whenever a Yankee doesn't win an award, but it went to the right player.
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Postby TheYanks04 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:50 am

Sure he did.

Say that often enough and maybe you might start to really believe it., esp when a couple of writers admitted voting for Berroa instead of Matsui because they did not cnsider Mstsui a rookie even though he was under the rules. You do not like the rules, change them. If it was good for Suzuki to get the nod, then it was for Matsui and the numbers if anything favor Matsui.


.287 17/73/92 with 100 Ks

won out over

.298 16/106/82 with 86 Ks
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Postby Tavish on Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:54 am

TheYanks04 wrote:Sure he did.

Say that often enough and maybe you might start to really believe it., esp when a couple of writers admitted voting for Berroa instead of Matsui because they did not cnsider Mstsui a rookie even though he was under the rules. You do not like the rules, change them. If it was good for Suzuki to get the nod, then it was for Matsui and the numbers if anything favor Matsui.


.287 17/73/92 with 100 Ks

won out over

.298 16/106/82 with 86 Ks


.287 BA .338 OBP .451 SLG .789 OPS playing shortstop
.287 BA .353 OBP .435 SLG .785 OPS playing left field

I think you need to recheck your numbers. Keep complaining enough about it and you might feel justified. Matsui plays for a small market team and the vote wouldn't have even been as close as it was. Suzuki was far and away the best player his rookie season. Matsui was comparable to Berroa but played a much less demanding position.
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Postby Registered_Guest on Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:46 am

Rookie status or not, Berroa deserved it over Matsui THAT year.
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Postby Garry26 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:22 am

There are two reasons i believe that happened.

1- They dont like giving "rookie" awards to japanese players who are technically already veterans. Japanese players have to do a lot better than a regular rookie to get the award. Ichiro got a good # of SBs. That put him over the top.

2- When faced with a yankee rookie and another rookie with similar numbers, the other rookie wins out if hes on a weak team. As its harder to produce good numbers on a weak lineup than it is on a starstudded Yankee lineup.
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