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What's a fairer category...OBP or AVG?

Postby AI8818 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:26 am

Our league is a 12 team H2H 5x5 standard league. The only thing were having trouble with is deciding for hitters, to do OBP or AVG. What would you want? Whats the fairest for everyone?
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Postby kentx12 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:03 am

You will get mixed opinions on this but personally I like Avg.
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Postby grammysboy » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:47 am

We made the switch last season and to be honest, it just shifts your focus a little. Where we had been looking for anything above .285, we now look for an OBP above .350. It's nice to find those players who's OBP is significantly higher than their BA, but it is really just a statistic to measure and keep track of. If we went back, there would be very little argument or complaint.

I really don't think this change is worth spending long hours of debate on in a league meeting. Just take a vote and move on. You won't notice much difference either way.
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Postby looptid » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:47 am

By unfair, do you mean misrepresenting a player's value in real baseball? AVG is either an incomplete version of OBP that excludes walks or a rounded version of SLG that normalizes all hits to singles. OBP and SLG better describe how teams score runs (by getting runners on and advancing runners), so if your aim is to replicate what makes real baseball teams successful in your fantasy game, you should probably go that route.

But as long as everyone knows the scoring categories well enough ahead of time to prepare for the draft with them in mind, it doesn't really matter from a fantasy perspective if you use AVG or OBP.
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Postby bleach168 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:43 pm

OBP is AVG + BB really.

If drawing a walk is a good thing in real life, then why do we punish the owners of players who draw walks in fantasy baseball?

OBP is better!
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Postby LCBOY » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:45 pm

bleach168 wrote:OBP is AVG + BB really.

If drawing a walk is a good thing in real life, then why do we punish the owners of players who draw walks in fantasy baseball?

OBP is better!

In my H2H league we count walks.
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:51 pm

"Fair" is a subjective term to put into your query. For the purposes of scoring in a fantasy league, you pick one or the other and adjust your targeted players accordingly. As long as everyone in the league is using the same method, they're equally 'fair.'
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Postby LBJackal » Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:36 pm

All my leagues are BA but I'd much rather have OBA. I think it's easier to predict and I'd rather have skillful research payoff than have luck of a good BA pay off. I have no evidence that OBA is more predictable... it's jsut how I see it. Plus, I'd rather have players judged based on actual skill, not just their BA.
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Postby The Jury » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:51 am

LBJackal wrote:All my leagues are BA but I'd much rather have OBA. I think it's easier to predict and I'd rather have skillful research payoff than have luck of a good BA pay off. I have no evidence that OBA is more predictable... it's jsut how I see it. Plus, I'd rather have players judged based on actual skill, not just their BA.


I'd think that OBP varies less from year to year than BA would, because it incorporates 2 factors instead of just one. The walks drawn tend to be fairly consistent, so if a good player gets into a bit a ditch during the season, his OBP won't change as drastically as just the BA would...

If you read my drift... :-D So I think OBP is more accurate/consistent.. though BA is more classic for fantasy :-D

Hey maybe this is a sign of the changing baseball ERA... swinging more from the classical side of things to the statistics/Sabermetrics/(Moneyball?) influence...
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Postby The Jury » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:53 am

Hey I missed the question!

The "fairest" is probably OBP. At least, it's the fairest to the MLB baseball players ;-D
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