CubsFan7724 wrote:Jesus christ stop acting like I said Helton was on steroids. I merely said that there were rumors about it out of Colorado that were said here. So what. I never said anything about him taking steroids. Though the possibility of a trade and his numbers plummeting is a very real possibility. 1B is not a deeper position, there are more higher quality players at 3B than there are at 1B. Come on, you are talking about Sweeney and Palmerio? Bench players at best. Whenever a guy like Chipper could be the 11th or 12th player at a postition taken, that is a deep, deep position.
Cubs, I'm relatively new here but I follow baseball pretty closely and the whole steroids issue as well. I am curious as to how many people will show up completely different from their past. But I have never heard anyone accusing Helton of using steroids anywhere. He isn't muscular at all either. In fact, he looks exactly like he did when he broke into the league.
Sweeney and Palmeiro are not bench players unless you are playing in an 8 player league.
Don't take it personally. I'm just trying to be as objective as possible here.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
CubsFan7724 wrote:Jesus christ stop acting like I said Helton was on steroids. I merely said that there were rumors about it out of Colorado that were said here. So what. I never said anything about him taking steroids. Though the possibility of a trade and his numbers plummeting is a very real possibility. 1B is not a deeper position, there are more higher quality players at 3B than there are at 1B. Come on, you are talking about Sweeney and Palmerio? Bench players at best. Whenever a guy like Chipper could be the 11th or 12th player at a postition taken, that is a deep, deep position.
Cubs, I'm relatively new here but I follow baseball pretty closely and the whole steroids issue as well. I am curious as to how many people will show up completely different from their past. But I have never heard anyone accusing Helton of using steroids anywhere. He isn't muscular at all either. In fact, he looks exactly like he did when he broke into the league.
Sweeney and Palmeiro are not bench players unless you are playing in an 8 player league.
Don't take it personally. I'm just trying to be as objective as possible here.
Sweeney and Palmeiro are at best backup 1B or Util guys, but they will probably log the most games at your DL spot.
CubsFan7724 wrote:Sweeney and Palmeiro are at best backup 1B or Util guys, but they will probably log the most games at your DL spot.
And your point is...? They are pretty damn good back ups in a 12 team league don't you think? Even if we assume that they are average players at their position at best, I don't think you would have a 3B of their caliber as a back up. That is my point.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
Hmm.... Have you ever seen Helton? Does he resemble anyone that has done steroids?
I don't know the whole steroids thing, there was just this rumor that he had lost a lot of weight or something and steroid whispers were going around. I'm just reporting, not creating. As for your reasoning on why Blalock is better than Tex, Tex was hurt the first half, unlike Blalock, who in his slump half (2nd) was absolutely awful for no reason. But we'll settle this later, and anyone who thinks that 1b is deeper than 3b this year is wrong. At first, theres Pujols, Helton, Tex, Thome, Ortiz, Huff, Lee, Morneau maybe, and so on. 3b has Arod, Beltre, Chavez, Rolen, Mora, Blalock, Aramis, Huff, D Wright, Chipper Jones, Mike Lowell, etc.
From Rotoworld Aug 26th 2004
Hank Blalock hit a two-run homer, singled in a run and walked tonight. Blalock has matched his 2003 totals of 29 homers and 90 RBI. His average is down, in part because of his wrist problems, but he is beating last year's OPS.
And Sep 17th 2004
Hank Blalock has 13 RBI and is hitting .325 in his last 10 games. He seems to be over his second-half slump. Perhaps the reason for Blalock's recent surge is that his wrist is feeling better. It now seems safe to ride him until the end of the season.
Ah, never heard that. I hadn't seen he had the wrist thing, I thought he had just fallen apart. And Yoda, all backups are subpar usually. Thats why they are subpar. But there is higher quality across the board, especially in that 4th-6th round area, at 3B.
CubsFan7724 wrote:Ah, never heard that. I hadn't seen he had the wrist thing, I thought he had just fallen apart. And Yoda, all backups are subpar usually. Thats why they are subpar. But there is higher quality across the board, especially in that 4th-6th round area, at 3B.
Which group was better? I wouldn't expect anyone from the 1B group to drop off. But for 3B, Castilla won't even be owned in 75% of the leagues out there and Batista isn't even in the league anymore. There are players like Morneau, Giambi, Overbay, Pena, Millar, Sweeney, Palmeiro, Thomas, Sexson, N.Johnson, Jacobson, Kotchman, Morales who are all more than serviceable at 1B not included in that list. The competition at 3B is: Freel, Ensberg, Wright, McPherson, Glaus, Hinske, Alfonzo, Bell, Wigginton, Mueller, Burroughs, Crede, Youkillis...
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
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