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Why do people talk about Mig Cabrera as a mini-pujols?

Postby Music2004Man » Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:49 pm

I understand that not many 21 yr olds can hit 33 HR's and 112 RBIs but I don't think he's anywhere near Pujols? Cabrera's SO/BB ratio is pretty bad and his average isn't even 300? I understand that he has a lot of upside and Delgado hitting behind him will help but I don't understand the Pujols comparisons. Any help would be appreciated, thanks
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Postby WharfRat » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:07 pm

I've never heard that one before, but I can see th logic. Both are prodigies, for one--but Cabrera isn't as good as Pujols. Hence, mini-Pujols. Check out Pujols' season when he was 21. His power numbers were better, but not by much. Yeah, his average was higher, but if memory serves, his K/BB was like 60/90 or something--again, not so bad as Cabrera, but not terrific. So the logic makes sense, in the same way that I'd call Carlos Zambrano a mini-Schilling, maybe....? Or maybe that's not the right comparison.

While we're talking about Pujols: Am I the only one who laughs when I go to his player page on ESPN.com and sees that the proper pronunciation for his name is written "poo-holes"? Or maybe I'm an idiot.
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Postby Amazinz » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:08 pm

I guess the comparison is there because they both came into the league at 21 like gangbusters. Cabrera is more impressive to me because (personal opinion) Pujols was more like 23-24 his first year in the league.

His plate discipline is poor but if he can improve it I can definitely see him being the next Pujols but until he does the comparisons are premature.
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Postby Grouperman941 » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:36 pm

Beyond the #s, the thing that stands out for Cabrera is his level of confidence. He looks like this giant 14-year old, but you can tell he feels he belongs on that field. There is not an ounce of deer-in-the headlights in his eyes.

It wouldn't mean so much without the #s, but combined with the fact that he hits like a veteran, it becomes something special.

The last time I saw a young player with a look in his eye like he belonged there and the bat to back it up was Pujols. Maybe that's where the comparison is coming from.
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Postby RynMan » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:48 pm

I have heard him compared to a young Manny Ramirez more than Pujols. This seems like a fairer comparison to me. I don't think he shows the plate discipline and use of the whole field to be Pujols like.
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Postby Fool42 » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:31 am

I also have heard of more as mini-Manny than mini-Pujols
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Postby Yoda » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:39 am

RynMan wrote:I have heard him compared to a young Manny Ramirez more than Pujols. This seems like a fairer comparison to me. I don't think he shows the plate discipline and use of the whole field to be Pujols like.


Agreed. He does make adjustments at the plate. I followed him pretty closely in 04 (thank you Extra innings) and he has serious pop to all fields as well.
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Postby Justise » Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:17 am

Amazinz wrote:I guess the comparison is there because they both came into the league at 21 like gangbusters. Cabrera is more impressive to me because (personal opinion) Pujols was more like 23-24 his first year in the league.

His plate discipline is poor but if he can improve it I can definitely see him being the next Pujols but until he does the comparisons are premature.


Pujols just turned 25, 9 days ago.

Mini-Pujols; exceled right out of the minors, very young, stats not as impressive.

If he was called Pujols 2, then he should have Same stats.

Thus, Mini-Pujols
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Postby Amazinz » Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:54 am

Justise wrote:Pujols just turned 25, 9 days ago.

Supposedly. ;-)
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Postby chinch sacs » Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:01 am

Amazinz wrote:I guess the comparison is there because they both came into the league at 21 like gangbusters. Cabrera is more impressive to me because (personal opinion) Pujols was more like 23-24 his first year in the league.

His plate discipline is poor but if he can improve it I can definitely see him being the next Pujols but until he does the comparisons are premature.


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