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Postby Erboes » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:31 pm

GreenMonsterGoon wrote:Thanks for the feedback.....

I disagree on Hudson. Look beyond just last year's stats. As do the two national sites I use. They had him as the #11 overall.

(Nomar is a longshot there, but he proves me wrong on every projection I've had on him, so I went opposite of my gut.)


I don't know what national sites you are using but I hope they're free. Hudson's never in his career been a top 11 player. Ever. The closest he came to it was a top 25 finish in '03. What this should tell you is that he would even have to do better than his 2.70 ERA and 1.08 WHIP of that season to justify such a lofty ranking. Other than that one season, he's been, at best, a top 40 player. Can he do better in '05 than he did in '03? Anything is possible, but I have a hard time seeing it now that he's pitching in Turner Field. I will say this again, taking a low K guy this high is nearly suicidal. There is no room for error and you are nearly doomed from the start. Try Rotoguys.com next time -- they'll set you straight.
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Postby Secret Avatar » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:46 pm

I've checked out the complete results of that draft. Some bewildering picks IMO:

Soriano and Rolen in the 1st round?!

Gagne before RJ and Schmidt?!

Magglio in the 2nd before RJ, Schmidt, and Crawford?!

Hudson before RJ and Schmidt?!

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Postby GreenMonsterGoon » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:58 pm

I couldn't figure why maggs went so high
D-Mat, Schilling, Beckett, and Papelbon - Wow!
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Re: ya

Postby Erboes » Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:59 pm

GreenMonsterGoon wrote:I couldn't figure why maggs went so high


I can't figure out why you would take Hudson before Johnson and Schmidt.
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Postby Dans » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:04 pm

He didn't take Hudson before RJ and Schmidt.
I would consider trading Hudson for some speed.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:13 pm

There really were a ton of bad picks early.

Brett Boone in the 2nd rd :-o
Pods in the 3rd before Schilling, Sheets, DOrtiz.
Vernon Wells before Miggy Cabrera?
OCab in the 4th ;-7

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Postby Secret Avatar » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:21 pm

Here's the full draft for the first 10 rounds. Seriously dudes, I have no idea what many of these owners were thinking. :-o

FIRST ROUND

Carlos Beltran (OF)
Vladimir Guerrero (OF)
Albert Pujols (1B)
Alex Rodriguez (3B)
Barry Bonds (OF)
Alfonso Soriano (2B)
Bobby Abreu (OF)
Johan Santana (P)
Scott Rolen (3B)
Miguel Tejada (SS)
Manny Ramirez (OF)
Todd Helton (1B)

SECOND ROUND

Eric Gagne (P)
Adrian Beltre (3B)
Magglio Ordonez (OF)
Bret Boone (2B)
Carlos Delgado (1B)
Gary Sheffield (OF)
Edgar Renteria (SS)
Tim Hudson (P)
Jason Schmidt (P)
Carl Crawford (OF)
Randy Johnson (P)
Ichiro Suzuki (OF)

THIRD ROUND

Eric Chavez (3B)
Jim Thome (1B)
Carlos Lee (OF)
Juan Pierre (OF)
Vernon Wells (OF)
Pedro Martinez (P)
Derek Jeter (SS)
Nomar Garciaparra (SS)
Miguel Cabrera (OF)
Scott Podsednik (OF)
Ben Sheets (P)
Curt Schilling (P)

FOURTH ROUND

Richie Sexson (1B)
Aramis Ramirez (3B)
Orlando Cabrera (SS)
Rafael Furcal (SS)
Billy Wagner (P)
Marcus Giles (2B)
Keith Foulke (P)
Hank Blalock (3B)
Aubrey Huff (1B,3B)
Adam Dunn (OF)
David Ortiz (1B)
Chipper Jones (OF,3B)

FIFTH ROUND

Kerry Wood (P)
Jeff Kent (2B)
Jorge Posada (C)
Mark Prior (P)
Mike Lowell (3B)
Shawn Green (1B,OF)
Melvin Mora (3B)
Mark Teixeira (1B)
Jose Reyes (2B)
Brad Lidge (P)
Johnny Damon (OF)
Mariano Rivera (P)

SIXTH ROUND

Randy Winn (OF)
Andruw Jones (OF)
Preston Wilson (OF)
Jim Edmonds (OF)
Sammy Sosa (OF)
Derrek Lee (1B)
Brian Giles (OF)
Ivan Rodriguez (C)
Joe Nathan (P)
Francisco Rodriguez (P)
Michael Young (SS)
Roy Oswalt (P)

SEVENTH ROUND

John Smoltz (P)
Carlos Zambrano (P)
Jake Peavy (P)
Mike Piazza (1B,C)
Jason Isringhausen (P)
Josh Beckett (P)
Octavio Dotel (P)
Oliver Perez (P)
Hideki Matsui (OF
Sean Casey (1B)
Lance Berkman (OF)
Trot Nixon (OF)

EIGHTH ROUND

Kevin Millwood (P)
Corey Koskie (3B)
Danny Kolb (P)
Torii Hunter (OF)
Barry Zito (P)
Roy Halladay (P)
Reggie Sanders (OF)
Mark Mulder (P)
Mike Mussina (P)
David Wright (3B)
Victor Martinez (C)
Javy Lopez (C)

NINTH ROUND

Phil Nevin (1B)
Jason Kendall (C)
Trevor Hoffman (P)
Luis Castillo (2B)
Steve Finley (OF)
Jacque Jones (OF)
Roger Clemens (P)
Garret Anderson (OF)
Jimmy Rollins (SS)
Rich Harden (P)
Bill Mueller (3B)
Mike Sweeney (1B)

TENTH ROUND

Matt Clement (P)
Kazuo Matsui (SS)
Armando Benitez (P)
Travis Hafner (DH)
Corey Patterson (OF)
Dmitri Young (1B)
Greg Maddux (P)
Troy Percival (P)
Francisco Cordero (P)
Paul Konerko (1B)
Chone Figgins (OF,3B,2B)
Luis Gonzalez (OF)

Other notables:

Carlos Guillen in 11
Alou, Pavano, and Vidro in 12
JD Drew in 13
Bernie Williams and Mark Loretta in 14
Freddy Garcia in 17
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Postby sisyphus » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:56 pm

Wow, what a train wreck! Where to begin?

Helton at 12?
Ordonez/Boone at 15/16?
Hudson before Schmidt and RJ?
Podsednik before Sheets/Schilling?
Prior in the 5th?
GREEN before TEIXEIRA?
Millwood before Halladay/Mulder/Mussina...etc.

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Postby Ajax » Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:21 pm

sisyphus wrote:Wow, what a train wreck! Where to begin?

Helton at 12?
Ordonez/Boone at 15/16?
Hudson before Schmidt and RJ?
Podsednik before Sheets/Schilling?
Prior in the 5th?
GREEN before TEIXEIRA?
Millwood before Halladay/Mulder/Mussina...etc.

Can I join!


My thoughts exactly.
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Postby Trot Nixon » Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:28 pm

Oswalt the last pick in the 6th round????? :-?
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