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by **RyanK** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:07 pm

I am making my return to fantasy baseball, I was wondering are holds a stat many people use for fantasy or not really? My leauge a few years ago used them.

by **Pogotheostrich** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:10 pm

I would say no but it depends on who you talk to. I would same most leagues are 5x5 (R, RBI, HR, SB, AVG for batters - W, K, WHIP, ERA, SV for pitchers)

by **kimchi_chigae** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:17 pm

i have never played in a league that counted holds. i'm sure it would be interesting to try one though. it brings more players to the game.

my guess is that the vast majority of leagues don't use holds as a cat, but i might be wrong :-)

by **wrveres** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:19 pm

We use holds in at least 50% of my leagues ... ;-D

by **Rico The Retard** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:51 pm

i use them every once a while in my leagues, it depends really it would be fine to use them and it would be fine to not use them

by **kentx12** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:21 pm

I use them in most every league I am in. I highly recomend them. Makes for a much more intresting team.

by **SaintsOfTheDiamond** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:25 pm

It's kind of a two way street IMO. They give value to MRP's other than good ratios and vulture wins, but there isn't really a good way to predict most RP's who will get them outside of the well-defined setup men. They definitely add another layer of complexity which I really like, though added complexity is usually the last thing I need. :*)

by **bmcginni** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:46 pm

i played in a league for a few years that counted holds. i am not a fan as there are only a few players that consistently get holds. these are the "setup men" that are becoming more popular on mlb rosters. so...the guy in my league that had Octavio Dotel (HOU days) got the 12 pts in the Hold roto cat, everyone else got few pts.

I advise against them simply b/c there aren't enough setup men to go around. (what a boring category too, yeah?)

by **yaz8** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:46 pm

The fantasy league I play in counts saves and holds as 1 point. It is a combined category. The reason why we did this is that it gives middle relievers more value in the draft.

by **RugbyD** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:53 pm

I've purposely avoided using them because there's no good way to evaluate players on that basis. Its like picking team defenses in football. Everyone knows to draft Baltimore and the Pats, but after that everyone waits b/c it's so random. MR have a great role in a LIMA strategy that just about matches up with their importance in real baseball.

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