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Postby JDD » Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:14 pm

Crawford or Matsui or Lee?

They will probably put up a similar amount of fantasy points.

Matsui will probably have an easier time of it.

Lee probably has the best shot of breaking their individual ceilings.

It's a toss-up, but Lee has the best up-side, and the new team factor really doesn't scare me.
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Postby Budworth22 » Wed Dec 29, 2004 5:56 pm

Don't expect the whitesox to bat someone with a .300 OBP at the top of their lineup. Someone will realize this someway. Posednick will destroy your BA.
Crawford, Lee, Matsui,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Posednick.
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Postby HOOTIE » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:20 pm

You can't compare Lee's and Matsuis 1st 2 seasons, the age difference was huge. Lee was 23-24, Matsui 29-30 (prime). Matsui's MLE's (Major League Equivalents) going off memory, was a 890 OPS, and 30 hrs. Looking at last year, it's pretty close (31 hrs), and a (912 Ops). I don't have Matsui's g/f ratios handy, but looking at his huge drop in dps from 03 to 04 (25 to 11), i'm guessing he lowered his g/f ratio, getting more balls airborne.

I'm wondering why someone thinks Lee (29), has the highest upside? Crawford at 23, imo, easily has the highest upside. Once Crawford drives the ball more, you could have a 25 hr 50 sb guy.

TROT Huff over Lee.
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Re: Posednick is pure garbage

Postby kimchi_chigae » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:22 pm

Budworth22 wrote:Don't expect the whitesox to bat someone with a .300 OBP at the top of their lineup. Someone will realize this someway. Posednick will destroy your BA.
Crawford, Lee, Matsui,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Posednick.
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Postby LCBOY » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:37 pm

HOOTIE wrote:You can't compare Lee's and Matsuis 1st 2 seasons, the age difference was huge. Lee was 23-24, Matsui 29-30 (prime). Matsui's MLE's (Major League Equivalents) going off memory, was a 890 OPS, and 30 hrs. Looking at last year, it's pretty close (31 hrs), and a (912 Ops).

Very true. However, since Matsui reached the Japanese major leagues at age 19 he has always been ahead of Lee in the development curve. Matsui had his breakout year at age 22 in 1996. In 130 games:

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