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who should move on to the next round?

Van Halen
14
54%
Lynard Skynard
12
46%
 
Total votes : 26

Postby acsguitar » Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:06 pm

David Lee Roth Van Halen....

Sammy sucks
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Postby Fireball Express » Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:02 am

I really like both of these bands. This is a tough one for me.

I never got to see Skynyrd. I would have love to. I always like that Southern Rock. I have plenty of records, and since, discs of bands like them, The Outlaws, Blackfoot, and Molly Hatchet (et al).

The intro guitar lick to "That Smell" is blistering. Love it!

"First and Last" is the most underrated Skynyrd album.


I have to divide Van Halen into 2 catagories; Dave and Post Dave.

I saw VH w/ Dave on the tour for "Women and Children First" (80?).
One of the best pure rock shows for me to date.
Eddie was drinking from a bottle of Jack after every song. He was smashed. He even tripped when climbing the step-like speakers. He never stopped playing.
Someone threw a burning joint up on stage. Dave stopped the music, held it up, and said something like "Didn't anyone every tell you this stuff is bad for you?". Then he took a hit and threw it back into a swarming audience.

Years later I saw Van Hagar at Mosters of Rock (VH, Scorps, Metallica, Dokken and kingdom Come). Maybe it was b/c I was partying all day for a very long show, or that the Scorpions just blew me away, but I didn't like halen w/ Sammy. The show was boring compared to the one I'd seen years before. I ended up leaving 2/3 through the set.

I've also seen Dave solo, twice. The first time was entertaining w/ Steve Vai on guitar. The 2nd time it seemed like Dave just wanted to get the show over with and go party in NYC.

So I gave my vote to Van Halen based almost entirely on the fact that that VH show I went to still has to be in my top 10 shows of all time. (I've seen a bunch too). Oh and Eddie is a revolutionary guitarist who has added so much to how the rock guitar is played today.

Can't take anything away from Skynyrd. If the pairing was different they probably would get my vote over some of these jokers on this poll.
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Postby wrveres » Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:47 am

Fireball Express wrote: Eddie is a revolutionary guitarist who has added so much to how the rock guitar is played today.


I could listen to him play all day ... ;-D
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Postby HOOTIE » Tue Dec 28, 2004 6:03 am

Van Halen, although where's the love for Sammy? I like both Dave and Sammy, although i prefer Sammy. Dave was the showman, but i think Sammy was more the singer. Dave had too big a ego, and it killed him, (couldn't make it without VH). His solo career had shows canceled due to lack of sales. Sammy had a nice solo career. Eddie is my fav guitarist as well. He has so much fun playing.
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Postby wkelly91 » Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:44 am

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Lynyrd Skynyrd was the definitive Southern rock band, fusing the overdriven power of blues-rock with a rebellious, Southern image and a hard rock swagger. Skynyrd never relied on the jazzy improvisations of the Allman Brothers. Instead, they were a hard-living, hard-driving rock & roll band — they may have jammed endlessly on-stage, but their music remained firmly entrenched in blues, rock, and country. For many, Lynyrd Skynyrd's redneck image tended to obscure the songwriting skills of its leader, Ronnie VanZant. Throughout the band's early records, VanZant demonstrated a knack for lyrical detail and a down-to-earth honesty that had more in common with country than rock & roll. During the height of Skynyrd's popularity in the mid-'70s, however, VanZant's talents were overshadowed by the group's gritty, greasy blues-rock. Sadly, it wasn't until he was killed in a tragic plane crash in 1977 along with two other bandmembers that many listeners began to realize his talents. Skynyrd split up after the plane crash, but they reunited a decade later, becoming a popular concert act during the early '90s.

While in high school in Jacksonville, Florida, Ronnie VanZant (vocals), Allen Collins (guitar), and Gary Rossington (guitar) formed My Backyard. Within a few months, the group added bassist Leon Wilkeson and keyboardist Billy Powell, and changed their name to Lynyrd Skynyrd, a mocking tribute to their gym teacher Leonard Skinner, who was notorious for punishing students with long hair. With drummer Bob Burns, Lynyrd Skynyrd began playing throughout the South. For the first few years, the group had little success, but producer Al Kooper signed the band to MCA after seeing them play at an Atlanta club called Funocchio's in 1972. Kooper produced the group's 1973 debut, Pronounced Leh-Nerd Skin-Nerd, which was recorded after former Strawberry Alarm Clock guitarist Ed King joined the band. The group became notorious for their triple-guitar attack, which was showcased on "Free Bird," a tribute to the recently deceased Duane Allman. "Free Bird" earned Lynyrd Skynyrd their first national exposure and it became one of the staples of album-rock radio, still receiving airplay nearly 25 years after its release.

"Free Bird" and an opening slot on the Who's 1973 Quadrophenia tour gave Lynyrd Skynyrd a devoted following, which helped its second album, 1974's Second Helping, become its breakthrough hit. Featuring the hit single "Sweet Home Alabama" — a response to Neil Young's "Southern Man" — Second Helping reached number 12 and went multi-platinum. At the end of the year, Artimus Pyle replaced drummer Burns and King left the band shortly afterward. The new sextet released Nuthin' Fancy in 1975, and it became the band's first Top Ten hit. The record was followed by the Tom Dowd-produced Gimme Back My Bullets in 1976, which failed to match the success of its two predecessors. However, the band retained its following through its constant touring, which was documented on the double-live album One More From the Road. Released in late 1976, the album featured the band's new guitarist Steve Gaines and a trio of female backup singers, and it became Skynyrd's second Top Ten album.

Lynyrd Skynyrd released its sixth album, Street Survivors, on October 17, 1977. Three days later, a privately chartered plane carrying the band between shows in Greenville, SC, and Baton Rouge, LA, crashed outside of Gillsburg, MS. Ronnie VanZant, Steve Gaines, and his sister Cassie, one of the group's backing vocalists, died in the crash; the remaining members were injured. (The cause of the crash was either fuel shortage or a fault with the plane's mechanics.) The cover for Street Survivors had pictured the band surrounded in flames; after the crash, the cover was changed. In the wake of the tragedy, the album became one of the band's biggest hits. Lynyrd Skynyrd broke up after the crash, releasing a collection of early demos called Skynyrd's First And...Last in 1978; it had been scheduled for release before the crash. The double-album compilation Gold and Platinum was released in 1980.

Later in 1980, Rossington and Collins formed a new band which featured four surviving members. Two years later, Pyle formed the Artimus Pyle Band. Collins suffered a car crash in 1986, which killed his girlfriend and left him paralyzed; four years later, he died of respiratory failure. In 1987, Rossington, Powell, King, and Wilkeson reunited Lynyrd Skynyrd, adding vocalist Johnny VanZant and guitarist Randall Hall. The band embarked on a reunion tour, which was captured on the 1988 double-live album, Southern by the Grace of God/Lynyrd Skynyrd Tribute Tour — 1987. The re-formed Skynyrd began recording in 1991, and for the remainder of the decade, the band toured frequently, putting out albums occasionally. The reunited Skynyrd frequently switched drummers, but it had little effect on their sound.

During the '90s, Lynyrd Skynyrd were made honorary colonels in the Alabama State Militia, due to their classic-rock staple "Sweet Home Alabama." During the mid-'90s, VanZant, Rossington, Wilkeson, and Powell regrouped by adding two Southern rock veterans to Skynyrd's guitar stable: former Blackfoot frontman Rickey Medlocke and ex-Outlaw Hughie Thomasson. With ex-Damn Yankee Michael Cartellone bringing stability to the drum chair, the reconstituted band signed to CMC International for the 1997 album Twenty. This lineup went on to release Lyve From Steeltown in 1998, followed a year later by Edge of Forever. The seasonal effort Christmas Time Again was released in fall 2000.

Skynard rules

Van Halen is over-rated schlock. The only band more over-rated is "Sting" and "The Police". :-P
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Postby Mookie4ever » Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:13 am

wkelly91 wrote:Van Halen is over-rated schlock. The only band more over-rated is "Sting" and "The Police". :-P


Anybody who makes a comment like this doesn't deserve to vote in this <img src=/forums/images/smiles/kiss.gif>

The Police are one of my favourite bands - I got every one of their albums (after their first one) on the day that they were released. My friend and I got the first ones out of the box at Music World and ran back to my place to listen to them. They were awesome. They could only be better if they were Canadian. The only reason that they are not in this contest is because they nobody would consider them "classic" or "classic rock"
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Postby ironman » Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:29 pm

Skynyrd here.

Van Halen was good during the David Lee Roth era, and not because of Roth, but because they could still rock then. After Hagar came on they moved to this powerpop love ballad schlock that was horrible. Just thinking of it makes me want to throw up and further fuels my disgust towards Crystal Clear Pepsi. Then as if they couldn't do worse, Hagar is gone and the pick up Gary Cherone. Huh? You're Van Halen, and the best you can get to front your band is the sissy dude from Extreme? What were the guys from Air Supply busy? Van Halen came out of the gates rocking and have been on a downward spiral of crappiness ever since 1984.

Skynyrd is great. Plus you can see them at your local county fair next summer. If they're not in your county, go one county over and I'm sure they're there.
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Postby eftda » Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:40 pm

How do you have Halen up there and not have: Girl you Really Got Me Now, not on that list!!!!!


BTW, I voted Halen
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Postby Mookie4ever » Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:45 pm

eftda wrote:How do you have Halen up there and not have: Girl you Really Got Me Now, not on that list!!!!!


BTW, I voted Halen


Because the Kinks did it first and better.
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Postby wrveres » Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:35 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:
eftda wrote:How do you have Halen up there and not have: Girl you Really Got Me Now, not on that list!!!!!


BTW, I voted Halen


Because the Kinks did it first and better.


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