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D-Backs Saves, Aquino VS Valverder. Is there a front runner?

Postby Bukoski77 » Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:37 am

I havent seen either of them pitch and well frankly dont know who has better stuff. Who throws a better fastball, curve, broader pitch selection,......etc.........

My personal fantasy intrest would be for Aquino, free keeper in my league LOL.

As soon as Valverde got hurt last year, Aquino stepped in and out performed him in WHIP and ERA. Aquino's 1.16WHIP to Valverde's 1.348 and Aquino's 3.057 ERA to Valverde's 4.247 ERA while Aquino pitched 5.6 more INN than Valverde.

Aquino K'd .07 baters per INN while Valverde out performed him with 1.3 batters K'd per inning.

Going into last year the D-Backs liked Valverde enough to shop Mantei openly.

After Aquino filled in just fine after Valverde got injured, is there a clear cut favorite going into spring training or will it be an open competition for the closer job?
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Postby Bukoski77 » Sat Dec 25, 2004 1:30 pm

Bump, any D-Back fans around here know anything about this one?
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Postby kimchi_chigae » Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:31 pm

i'm not a Dback fan (thank god :-b ) but from what i've read so far here in the cafe, Aquino should start the season as the closer in 2005. i've never seen him or valverde pitch, so i can't help ya on who has better stuff.
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Postby stevethumb » Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:53 pm

i claimed jvalverde in 03 around the all star break and had a nice ride (i think he had a win and 6 saves in a 10 day period)and i claimed aquino last year in early july and was rewarded..valverde has more talent, throws harder, and will K more but aquino has a wicked slider ..some in arizona have questioned valverde's makeup and think his arm angle and motion may lead to continued injury problems..the job is aquino's to lose but i will be looking to grab mkoplove and bbruney and any other bullpen fodder who may get their chance later in 05
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Postby stumpak » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:04 pm

Do a search--I have Valverde in a keeper league and did a thread on this a few weeks back and a few people tossed in some opinions.
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Postby San D » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:14 pm

Aquino is the frontrunner, but he had never pitched effectively until his closer stint last year. Also, he got racked (5.25 ERA) in the Domincan Winter League. I believe he loses his job early to Valverde.
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Postby wrveres » Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:34 pm

I would go with a healthy Valverde between the two. Aquino had never closed a game in his life (Minors/Majors) prior to last season. Valverde had been groomed to the position for a few seasons now. Also I wouldn't rule out the Diamondbacks going out and signing somebody ... ..

Oh and don't rule out Brain Bruney ...
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Postby trevisc » Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:15 pm

Aquino is the front runner but all thier closers suck so i'd expect a closer by committee approach with Aquino probably getting the bulk of saves
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Postby San D » Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:34 pm

trevisc wrote:Aquino is the front runner but all thier closers suck so i'd expect a closer by committee approach with Aquino probably getting the bulk of saves


Unfortunately for Diamondback fans, that's a pretty accurate statement. :-b
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Postby AKhomebrewer » Mon Dec 27, 2004 1:22 pm

I'm another one of those guys who grabbed Valverde as a FA in '03 and enjoyed his stretch run. He's got wicked stuff with a great K/9 rate and, if healthy, will play a prominent role in that pen somewhere. In a league that counts holds, it would be a no-lose to snare him somewhere in the later rounds.
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