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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:10 pm

ajgnydc722 wrote:Has anyone given any thought to St. Louis??

Mulder-Carpenter-Morris-Marquis-Suppan

If they can play like they did last year (Carpenter, Suppan, Marquis) then that's a very good rotation as well...


Of course I was going to mention them, but I think all of those guys pitched way over their heads last year. I'm expecting Marquis and maybe to an extent Carpenter to come back down a little bit, but then again no one knows what effect Mulder will have on the rotation. His presence may -- in theory -- allow them to settle down into the 2, 3, 4, and 5, spots they should be since none will have to step up and be the guy, but again that's best case probably.
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Postby ocmusicjunkie » Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:24 pm

Cubs are way out in front. After that I'd say Yankees (even as-is), then Sox, then Cards.
Help please:
http://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1086524#1086524


Harden- 2.15 ERA, 7.61 K/9
Peavy - 2.89 ERA, 10.10 K/9

[b]Lets go Rich![/b]
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Postby blankman » Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:27 pm

Too early to call. The Yankees are probably not done with signings and who knows about Boston as well.
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Postby SHOCKandAWE » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:33 pm

FatGuyWithAMullet wrote:The Cubs still have the best rotation in baseball hands down.
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Postby wrveres » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:35 pm

SHOCKandAWE wrote:
FatGuyWithAMullet wrote:The Cubs still have the best rotation in baseball hands down.
;-D


agreed ... I would take my chances with them anyday of the week.


Now if the Cubs only had the best pitching STAFF in all of MLB, then they might be on to something.
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Postby AuburnTigers » Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:37 am

I would take the Cubs first, then the Yanks, the Braves, the Red Sox, and then Johan Santana as a one man staff
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Postby trevisc » Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:17 am

Da Braves:

Hudson
Smoltz
Thomson
Hampton
H. Ramirez

sweet!
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:38 am

Im really not that impressed with the Redsox rotation. Schilling and Clement are there only real threats. Wells is a sideshow. Miller is injured and hasent pitched well since 2002. Arroyo or whoever is just a tossoff anyway.

I really like that Braves rotation trev just posted - that looks damn good.

Im pretty sure noone will argue that the Cubs top 3 instantly make them the best rotation in MLB.

Therefore I rank the top 3 staffs like this:

Cubs
Braves
Yankmes

If NY gets RJ, they will compete with the Cubs for the best in baseball.
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Postby slomo007 » Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:26 am

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:Im really not that impressed with the Redsox rotation. Schilling and Clement are there only real threats. Wells is a sideshow. Miller is injured and hasent pitched well since 2002. Arroyo or whoever is just a tossoff anyway.

I really like that Braves rotation trev just posted - that looks damn good.

Im pretty sure noone will argue that the Cubs top 3 instantly make them the best rotation in MLB.

Therefore I rank the top 3 staffs like this:

Cubs
Braves
Yankmes

If NY gets RJ, they will compete with the Cubs for the best in baseball.


Well put....I agree.
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Postby XTSilver » Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:03 pm

If you look at Miller's #s he has been remarkably consistent in his breif career. His BAA went down since his last "good year" and his Whip has stayed pretty much the same. His ERA jumped almost a point from 2002 to 2003 but none of his other numbers declined so maybe it was just an unlucky year. Last year before he got hurt his era was back around the 2002 numbers. I understand the injury risk but to say hes not a good pitcher anymore is just false.

Also if were comparing rotations I would gladly take a 3.30 pitcher with ~170 Ks as my 3rd or 4th starter.

Also to call Arroyo a tossoff is a severe injustice to what he has accomplished. He pitched well last year and some starts brilliantly and hes still learning. He is a very good 5th starter.
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