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Postby stevethumb » Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:11 pm

maybe the giants are gonna go slo-pitch softball this year and play 4 outfielders defensively...there may be a NL record set this year for triples in that park...insert your joke here----
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Postby wrveres » Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:27 pm

So who is batting number two?

I would imagine it looks like this ..

1. Durham
2. Snow
3. Bonds
4. Alou
5. Grissom
6. Alfonso
7. Vizquel
8. Matheny

I would say that lineup isn't scaring anybody but that man in the middle sure changes things doesnt he ...
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Postby LCBOY » Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:34 pm

tlef316 wrote:alou isnt propelling the giants to a WS. They needed a younger impact hitter or a stud SP. Giants will not win the NL west. They really do make the most bizzare moves. Guys like delgado, Mags and Beltran are out there, and they get Pee Hands :-?

Exactly!! Alou is 39 years old! He's at the point of his career were players can have huge dropoffs. SBC is not Wrigley Field. First they went after Finley and now they sign Alou. Alou doen't make the Giants WS contenders. Right now the Giants look like an 85 win team at best.
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Postby TownDrunk » Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:20 pm

Wrveres,

It will probably look like this:

1. Durham
2. Vizquel
3. Bonds
4. Alou
5. Alfonzo/Feliz
6. Snow
7. Grissom
8. Matheny

Feliz could have a big year if they get him regular playing time, while Alfonzo has reportedly lost 20 pounds.

The Giants are not looking towards the future; they’re looking to win now with the two years that Bonds has left. Hence the signing of old guys and not younger guys. They currently have only Vizquel and one other player under contract for 2007 I believe so after these two years up, they’re going to go in a major rebuilding mode.

I’m not wild on the signing, but Alou’s bat should greatly help the offense. However, that OF defense is going to be terrible. Expect to see a rookie by the name of Jason Ellison to get a lot of PT.

The Giants still have about $4 million left to spend. They still need to add a top, power armed set up guy. Hopefully they can do that. I would have also loved to have seen Wade Miller join the club, but that didn’t happen.

As of now, the Giants have to be considered the favorites to win the NL West.
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Postby shortsavage » Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:08 pm

The Giants have plenty of starting pitching:

Schmidt will anchor the staff.

Tomko was an ace in the second half last season.

Noah is as suited to pitch by water as anyone (paraphrasing Mike Krukow).

Jerome Williams lost a bunch of weight this season and is ready for a turnaround.

Kirk Rueter is one of the most boring pitchers ever (on the mound, he is a great guy off the field), but he is also one of the most successful lefties over the last ten years. Even in his twilight, he could be a decent #5.

Jesse Foppert may be getting smacked around in the Venezuelan Winter League right now, but that is what is supposed to happen when you come back from Tommy John. And you take risks when you are playing games that do not hurt your team in the standings. Maybe the coaching staff has him working hard on a certain pitch. Lets not forget his prospect status before his injury. They were saying future ace. He can be a solid middle of the rotation guy.

Lets not forget the job that Brad Hennessey did in the clutch last season. Hennessey may not have electrifying stuff, but he appears to be gifted enough to be a decent major league starter.

Lastly, how bout the young guns: Merkin Valdez and Matt Cain. These two will probably need another year of seasoning, however with strong first halves, they could ease into a rotation spot midsummer.


Not every team has a steady flow of salary to dish out at each season's biggest names, or at least they choose not to go about things that way. It would be foolish for the Giants to go out of their way to obtain a stud SP.

And what does a young impact hitter have over an old short-term option. Surely his name does not look as good on paper, but the stats could easily be comparable come November.

tlef316, you are looking at the Alou signing from a fantasy owner's perspective, try adjusting your lense. Hehe, and LCBOY you cannot be a Giants fan and agree with him. In Sabes we trust, c'mon.
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