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Postby mocabeenow » Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:55 pm

Here is a list i did of the order in which they came off the board by position. Might give some of us a starting point for our rankings! ;-D

C
Rodriguez
Martinez
Lopez
Varitek
Kendall
Posada
Estrada

1B
Pujols
Helton
Teixeira
Ortiz
Thome
Delgado
Konerko
Hafner
Sexson
Lee
Casey
Morneau
Green

2B
Soriano
Kent
Giles
Loretta
Figgins
bBoone
Vidro
Roberts
Reyes

3B
Rodriguez
Beltre
Rolen
Blalock
Mora
Chavez
Huff
Ramirez
Jones
Wright
Lowell

SS
Tejada
Jeter
Young
Renteria
Rollins
Garciaparra
Guillen
Furcal
Cabrera
Crosby

OF
Beltran
Guerrero
Ramirez
Ichiro
Bonds
Abreu
Crawford
Sheffield
Pierre
Cabrera
Edmonds
Drew
Damon
Dunn
Berkman
Lee
Patterson
Bay
Matsui
Wells
Guillen
Anderson
Podsednik
Giles
Rowand
Wilkerson
aJones
Ordonez
Sosa
Alou
Walker
Winn
Crisp

SP
Santana
Johnson
Schilling
Schmidt
Sheets
Prior
OvPerez
Peavy
Oswalt
Hudson
Zambrano
Mulder
Martinez
Wood
Vazquez
Smoltz
Pavano
Halladay
Beckett
Radke
Hernandez
Burnett
Harden
Garcia
Buehrle
Miller

RP
Gagne
Rivera
Lidge
Nathan
Foulke
Isringhausen
Cordero
Rodriguez
Benitez
Wagner
Hoffman
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Postby Trot Nixon » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:53 pm

Some Comments about the draft...
-I can't believe how far Soriano has fallen after one bad season...He was a top 5 pick last year and now he's out of the top 20? Jeepers

-And what happened to Chavez? He is now the 6th best 3rd basemen? I would still rank Chavez over Blalock, Mora and Mr. Overrated himself, Adrian Beltre and wow 3rd base is DEEEEP

- 10th round might be a bunch of steals if everything turns out to be OK. Boone, Maggs, Harden and Burnett.

-Rollins going 39th overall...almost spit up my drink

-2nd base is horrible this year (not like it was anything special last year)
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Postby djacks » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:18 pm

Some thoughts:

I remember last year everyone thinking Derek Lee was going to hit 40 HR's in Wrigley and he was a top 5 1B...now he's #10.

Nomar is getting no respect.

Rollins is pathetic, he shouldn't be in the top 120.

Garrett Anderson is better than at least 10 OF taken before him.

I'm sure there's a lot more silliness...this is one of the worst mocks I've seen...but at least its entertaining!... :-B
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Postby LBJackal » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:01 pm

Rollins will be top 120 for sure... #39, I doubt it, but he'll be good again. In that park and lineup, if he can continue to hti and steal like he is, he'll be a top SS again.

I don't know if people don't realize how good he was last year, or if they doubt he can keep it up. I don't think the .289 BA was indicative of his progress, and it will regress, but 119 R and 30 SB's? From one of the shallowest postions? It's hard to ignore that. And he doesn't hurt you in the power cats either. He gets a good amount of XBH's and his RBI are better than the typical speedy leadoff hitter.
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Postby Amazinz » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:08 pm

LBJackal wrote:Rollins will be top 120 for sure... #39, I doubt it, but he'll be good again. In that park and lineup, if he can continue to hti and steal like he is, he'll be a top SS again.

I agree and SS is exactly deep with talent.
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Postby XTSilver » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:11 pm

How bout Figgins #5 2b. I know some in the cafe like him for a sleeper but before Posada, DLee, and Mags to name a few come on.
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Postby Ballwreckers » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:25 pm

Here is a comparison of Jeter and Rollins

Jeter:R-111
HR-23
RBIs-78
SB-23
Avg-.292

Rollins:R-119
HR-14
RBIs-73
SB:30
AVG:.289

Except for the Homers. their #'s are simular, but I wouldn't draft Rollins that early, even if he is training with Gwynn in the offseason.Though he is worth to keep an eye on as the draft progresses.
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Postby big shot » Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:13 am

is there something wrong with posada i dont know about. is he injured or something??
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Postby RAmst23 » Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:29 am

I agree on the Posada comment, how does he fall that far compared with the other C's?

And wow 3B is deep, but these guys hit the pipe before they drafted.
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Postby Erboes » Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:45 am

I cannot help myself, I have to critique it:

Kint -- Good heavens, A-Rod at #1? The only good picks he had were Prior in the third and his closers. Possibly Nomar.

Allen -- Decent and potentially very good, but too many risks. Bay and Sexson could be difference makers, or they could blow his team out of the water.

Hurtt -- Very good with the potential to be excellent. I love Halladay and Lee.

Roberts -- He and Hurt have the teams to beat so far. Pedro, Boone, and Green are great values.

Gatto -- If it weren't for Wells, this was a very poor draft. Blalock in the third and Radke in the eighth? Good grief.

London -- Way too many risks, although I like Delgado. Beckett could be a steal too. But Morneau, Miller, and an injured Guillen? All three reaches which could bust his team early.

Bahr -- Could have a good team, but I keep on looking at Alou at ten and think the guy must be an idiot.

Kuznia -- Could have a good team, but I don't know if I would want to go into the season with my top two pitchers Vazquez and Harden. Chavez and Giles I like a lot.

Berry -- Should be the third team competing for the title. Crawford, Thome, Mora, Cabrera, and Figgins were excellent picks. His success will depend on Ordonez and Wright. If they come through, watch out.

Winkler -- Could be pretty good, but not a whole lot of value. Kendall, Garcia and Reyes especially.

Wheeler -- Some nice picks sprinkled around a bunch of garbage. Crosby, Roberts, and Sosa are crazy picks in my opinion.

Iyer -- Very good value with his hitters but his pitching may be his undoing. If Peavy progresses, Smoltz stays healthy, and I have no clue what he was doing with Buerhle, he could have a competing team.
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