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by **MrT** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:30 pm

Is he ready, will he close next year in Cinn?

by **slomo007** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:32 pm

Not unless Graves is traded in the near future. His season last year was a disappointment....he has time to learn though.

by **trevisc** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:51 pm

he's a super talented kid who has plenty of time to learn the ropes. With that said..I don't think he'll be closing this year.

by **pomplona's finest** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:21 pm

While we are on the subject, what type of numbers can we expect from Graves?

by **slomo007** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:29 pm

pomplona's finest wrote:While we are on the subject, what type of numbers can we expect from Graves?

Not as good as the first half of 2004, but not as bad as the second half. ;-)

by **chinch sacs** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:51 pm

Graves will close, Wagner is a great young player, but he won't put up any fantasy #'s unless your league counts holds...

by **dleoboyd** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:33 am

pomplona's finest wrote:While we are on the subject, what type of numbers can we expect from Graves?

I'm not a big Danny Graves fan, I think he is highly overpaid, but he does hold some value as a closer next season IMO:

28-33 Saves, 3.90 ERA, 1.35 WHIP, 30-40 K

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