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Postby trevisc » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:50 pm

j_d_mcnugent wrote:white sox also have carl everett in the outfield mix. one of them will probably spend some time at DH while thomas is recuperating.


you did say DH and not DL right?

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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:52 pm

tool069c wrote:Carlos Lee, Aaron Rowand, and now Dye....Pretty decent oufield if you ask me,...


I agree and like Trev said, at a pretty good price. ;-D
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Postby fantasy czar » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:54 pm

don't forget about Joe Borchardt...for some reason the sox keep putting this guy out in the field every now and than.

anyways, the trio of dye/lee/rowand seems to be a promising outfield for the next couple years. i wouldn't be surprised if the dye deal blows up in kenny william's face.
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Postby eftda » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:00 pm

trevisc wrote:and at a good price too.

not bad


too much for me... I would have given him 4.5 mill a year :-P
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Postby Niffoc4 » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:42 pm

I think this is a pretty good deal, and the Sox's offense will probably be good either way. Will Williams start worrying about pitching now? I heard he was in the running for Wright, but is there anyone else?
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:53 pm

fantasy czar wrote:anyways, the trio of dye/lee/rowand seems to be a promising outfield for the next couple years.


Yeah, sure does. A top defender at every position, too. Rowand is one of the best in CF and IMO is close to the best CF in baseball overall... if he can continue hitting as well as he did last year I'd say he's as good as Carlos Beltran. Dye has an amazing arm in RF, and his range is awesome too (3rd overall). Carlos Lee was top 5 in the majors for range last year too. That's a pretty good OF! And they can all hit, too. Dye staying healthy will be a key for them.
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Postby trevisc » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:55 pm

LBJackal wrote: if he can continue hitting as well as he did last year I'd say he's as good as Carlos Beltran.


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Postby LBJackal » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:03 pm

trevisc wrote:
LBJackal wrote: if he can continue hitting as well as he did last year I'd say he's as good as Carlos Beltran.


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That's right, I said it :-D

900 OPS, about as good in CF, and Rowand has some speed of his own. The difference between the two last year was almost negligible IMO. Obviously the SB's give Beltran the edge but in real life they don't make a huge difference.
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Postby Bloody Nipples » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:27 pm

LBJackal wrote:
trevisc wrote:
LBJackal wrote: if he can continue hitting as well as he did last year I'd say he's as good as Carlos Beltran.


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That's right, I said it :-D

900 OPS, about as good in CF, and Rowand has some speed of his own. The difference between the two last year was almost negligible IMO. Obviously the SB's give Beltran the edge but in real life they don't make a huge difference.


Umm, hasnt Rowand only put up those numbers for one year? The past 3 years before last year he had OPSs of 772, 692, and 816, and last year he had almost a 90 point jump in SLG from the previous year. In 582 ABs over those three years he only had 17 HRs. Beltran, on the other hand, has put up a 900+ OPS the past 2 years and SLG over 500 the past 4. I'd say Beltran is clearly the better player.
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:32 pm

Bloody Nipples wrote:
LBJackal wrote:
trevisc wrote:
LBJackal wrote: if he can continue hitting as well as he did last year I'd say he's as good as Carlos Beltran.


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That's right, I said it :-D

900 OPS, about as good in CF, and Rowand has some speed of his own. The difference between the two last year was almost negligible IMO. Obviously the SB's give Beltran the edge but in real life they don't make a huge difference.


Umm, hasnt Rowand only put up those numbers for one year? The past 3 years before last year he had OPSs of 772, 692, and 816, and last year he had almost a 90 point jump in SLG from the previous year.


That's why I said "if he can continue hitting as well as he did last year I'd say he's as good as Carlos Beltran"

Who knows, maybe Rowand will be even be better. Maybe it was a fluke, wo knows. But last season, the difference between the two wasn't that big at all. Their OBA's and SLG's were very similar and their defense was very similar as well.

And beltran will make like $13M per season, but nobody knows who Rowand even is :-D
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