El Jefe wrote:I'm not so sure that he's going to fail. After Weaver, Brown & Vaz, it seems everyone thinks that every SP not named Randy Johnson is doomed to failure when they put on the pinstripes. I think his ERA will go up due to the DH, but I can't see how anyone can project a compete collapse based on other pitcher's perceived lack of performance. I remember when a move to the Yankees was seen as a positive. Now...not so much...unless your name is Randy Johnson. Look at the 3 "failures...
1. Weaver-Was the Tigers "Ace" before he arrived. Does that really mean alot?
2. Brown-Came in an old injury-prone pitcher on the decline. Yankees pretty much got what they paid for.
3. Vasquez-His home/road splits indicate that he was not in awe of pitching in New York. His struggles came on the road. His home #s were: 104.2 IP, 88 H, 81 K, 4.13 ERA, 1.09 WHIP. His ERA was a bit higher than maybe some projected, but everything else looks fine to me.
Perhaps people shold keep their expectations realistic. They'll be less likely to be disappointed. I, for one, think Wright will be just fine.
A couple things I have to disagree with you on.
First - the reason many are predicting a down yr in NY doesnt lie solely on the "death to NY pitchers" theory. He had one of the best (if not the best) pitching coaches in the league last yr, and pitchers have a history of having down years after they leave Mazzone's tutelage. Also, Wright doesnt really have a statistical history that indicates last yr wasnt a fluke. Then, after those negatives, he goes to a team that has a recent history of signing very good pitchers only to have them fail.
Second - I agree somewhat about Weaver - he was actually a good pitcher, but still not really polished by the time the Yankees traded for him. Being on the Tigers means nothing other than maybe his ERA was slightly inflated if anything. So, it wasnt the fact that he was the Tigers "Ace", but actually that he was considered one of the best young pitchers in the game at the time - it just so happened he was in Detroit.
Third - You are way off on Brown. Simply put, he is still one of the best pitchers in the game today. There were a ton of people who had written him off, just like you did, prior to 2003. He answered those doubts by pitching 211 innings with a 2.39ERA, 1.14WHIP, and a K/9 close to 8. Thats when the Yankees targeted him. Last yr - he was quite arguably the Yankees best pitcher - among the SPs he was second only to El Dookie in ERA and led the SPs in WHIP. Had he not had such an unfortunate accident he could probably have had that much better of a season. Even though he was the best SP on the team his %s were still high for his average - which can be somewhat explained by the move from LA to NY.
I agree with you on Vaz.