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Postby Pacman » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:59 pm

just FYI:



http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/35981.htm



"...Lieber, who was offered arbitration, and the Phillies are close to a three-year deal for $21 million..."



( The article is by George King, who in the past has been known to make things up :-t , but just thought I'd pass it on. )
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Postby acsguitar » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:02 pm

wow 21million...that sounds like a lot to me...Leiber is good but not that good IMO
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Postby trevisc » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:45 pm

holy cow! talk about over paid. I'm glad from a Braves fan perspective though. No Millwood and now Lieber. We should be able to dominate them this year
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Postby The Cow » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:12 pm

That is too much money for Lieber, but this is yet another guy my Tribe missed out on. Though I am not too upset over this one. Some guys on the Tribes wis list that have signed: Wright, Lieber, Benitez, percival, I am sure I forgot someone oh yeah Radke.

BUT the Tribe's #1 target is still unsigned- Matt Clement. I think Clement is a solid pitcher but I think he is a big injury risk.

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Postby trevisc » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:42 pm

no offense Cow but nobody wants to play for the Tribe. Lieber is old and is hoping to see a WS run from the Phillies. I'm sure plenty of teams threw out offers to him that we'll never hear of. Some possibly for more money.

Don't want to offend you but Cleveland is not #1 on many player's lists.
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:45 pm

Seems to be the going rate - 3 years, $21M+ (Benson, Wright and now, possibly Lieber). I'm higher on Lieber than some, apparantly, so while I think the $7/year is OK, I think the length of the deal is the bad part. While he may be worth it in 2005, I don't see him being worth it in 2007. But, for next year, I think it would be a good pick-up for the Phillies.
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:49 pm

Dawgpound 1613 wrote:Seems to be the going rate - 3 years, $21M+ (Benson, Wright and now, possibly Lieber). I'm higher on Lieber than some, apparantly, so while I think the $7/year is OK, I think the length of the deal is the bad part. While he may be worth it in 2005, I don't see him being worth it in 2007. But, for next year, I think it would be a good pick-up for the Phillies.


I agree, I'd take Lieber over Wright and Benson so it's decent amount of money considering what the other two got. Stupid frigin Yankees let Lieber go for Wright, looks to be another dissappointing season, unless they get RJ and Pavano.
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Postby nsulham » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:14 pm

It's official, according to Jayson Stark on ESPN News

3 years for 21 mil

Nice signing by Philly.
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:25 pm

ajgnydc722 wrote:....unless they get RJ and Pavano.


This is off topic, but why is everyone making Pavano out to be the savior of the Yankees? Do people really think he will repeat last year? It was a complete fluke IMO, and on top of that he's going to cost way too much. I could very well be wrong on this, but even if he put up numbers like last year for his entire career he wouldn't deserve what he's more than likely going to get. I just don't understand. :-/
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Postby trevisc » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:34 pm

SaintsOfTheDiamond wrote:
ajgnydc722 wrote:....unless they get RJ and Pavano.


This is off topic, but why is everyone making Pavano out to be the savior of the Yankees? Do people really think he will repeat last year? It was a complete fluke IMO, and on top of that he's going to cost way too much. I could very well be wrong on this, but even if he put up numbers like last year for his entire career he wouldn't deserve what he's more than likely going to get. I just don't understand. :-/


not sure but I just saw this:

According to the New York Daily News, the Yankees are prepared to make a four-year offer to Carl Pavano.
The paper believes the Yankees will give up on acquiring Randy Johnson (until July anyway) and try to enter next season with a rotation of Mike Mussina, Pavano, Javier Vazquez, Eric Milton and Jaret Wright. They could still ink Pavano and try to re-sign Orlando Hernandez as a sixth starter. Kevin Brown will be dumped on another team, maybe Atlanta.
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