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Postby slomo007 » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:28 am

stumpak wrote:The fact that they are loading up now on back of the rotation guys makes me think they are pretty confident they can make the RJ deal work. It makes sense; Arizona will drop their ridiculous demands eventaully, what else are they going to do, keep him around and win 60 games instead of 50 and then get nothing in return for him whe he hangs it up?


Arizona still has one bargaining chip to play - fan attendance. Honestly, would you buy season tickets, or even tickets at all, to go see the Arizona Diamondbacks without Randy Johnson? I mean who are you paying to see? Casey Fossum? Alex Cintron? Luis Terrero? Hardly the cornerstones of any organization. At least with RJ, they will sell some tickets. I agree with you that the Yankees are thinking Arizona will get desperate, but I have a hard time believing they actually will.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:36 am

But if the Yankees keep signing players, their leverage goes down, I say. Plus, if Pedro signs elsewhere, the Yankees would only have one spot to get a top-of-the-rotation guy--Arizona.
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Postby acsguitar » Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:07 pm

Maybee theyll send them both to arizona pick up there contracts and take Randy

Actually don't the Dbacks want Vazquez?? Maybee He is just getting Wright so that they can fill the hole when they trade vaz for johnson
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Postby Transmogrifier » Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:11 pm

acsguitar wrote:Maybee theyll send them both to arizona pick up there contracts and take Randy

Actually don't the Dbacks want Vazquez?? Maybee He is just getting Wright so that they can fill the hole when they trade vaz for johnson


You cannot trade recently signed players for awhile. And, wouldn't RJ be filling the hole Vaz vacates? Either way, I don't see Wright performing all that well in NY--perhaps an up and down year like Vaz.
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Postby Amazinz » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:02 pm

Transmogrifier wrote:You cannot trade recently signed players for awhile.

I was under the impression that they could be traded immediately but that they had the right to veto any trade in the first year.
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Postby acsguitar » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:04 pm

I assume each contract is written differently .... however, maybee its a players union issue
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Postby trevisc » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:08 pm

you guys are partially right..here is the scoop

Starting in 1973, players who had been in the major leagues at least 10 years, the last five with his current club, could not be traded without their consent. In addition, in 1980, a player with at least five years in the majors could demand a trade if he was in the final year of their contract, or had been traded while signed to a multi-year contract. However, in doing so, he waived his right to free agency for a period of five years and could not demand another trade for three years. Also, he could be traded to any team except six clubs he specified. If his team did not honor his demand by March 15, he would become a free agent.
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Postby blankman » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:13 pm

trevisc wrote:you guys are partially right..here is the scoop

Starting in 1973, players who had been in the major leagues at least 10 years, the last five with his current club, could not be traded without their consent. In addition, in 1980, a player with at least five years in the majors could demand a trade if he was in the final year of their contract, or had been traded while signed to a multi-year contract. However, in doing so, he waived his right to free agency for a period of five years and could not demand another trade for three years. Also, he could be traded to any team except six clubs he specified. If his team did not honor his demand by March 15, he would become a free agent.


i don't think that answers the question, unless i'm misreading it
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Postby Amazinz » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:16 pm

Yeah that's not it. This is a special ruling created to protect free agents. I know I have read it 100 times but now that I need it I can't find it online. :-°
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Postby trevisc » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:18 pm

Keep digging cuz now my curiosity is bubbling over!!
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