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Postby Pacman » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:50 pm

I'm not sure how helpful this is to the whole steroid issue, but in reading other posts, suggesting how many others have used steroids besides Bonds, Giambi and Shef, I started thinking about a few names that seem like no-brainers for the Roid label.

And I wondered if it would be an interesting thead to have Cafe posters "name some names"...


I'll start by throwing one (obvious one) out there:


Brady Anderson That guy rebuilt himself into a monster! It was scary.




Any others?
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Postby acsguitar » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:54 pm

Brett Boone!
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Postby wrveres » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:54 pm

what evidence do you have ... ?


But just to keep your thread going .. I'll toss another one out there ..



Roger Maris .. He never even came close to 61 again.
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Postby LBJackal » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:12 pm

wr we are using evidence of abnormal changes to a player physically, and changes in their performance. We are speculating - there is no proof or there would be no reason to speculate.

You're naivety is cute, but it gets old.
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Postby Rico The Retard » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:32 pm

Esteban Loaiza
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Postby wrveres » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:56 pm

Roger Maris with the Indians, so this would be 57 or 58
Notice the arms ...
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The infamous Roger Maris picture of him hitting number 61 at age 27, only 3 years after the first picture. Notice the arms? Plus he went bald that year. He claims it was stress, but how do we know he is not a liar? On top of that he only hit 30 plus homeruns once for the rest of his career (33) never surpassing it again. I might also add that he never played a full season after that, because he was always injured.

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You guys had "convicted" Barry Bonds years ago, using just as much circumstantial evidence, and now you want to go after Brady Anderson and who knows whom ever else, ... "using evidence of abnormal changes to a player physically, and changes in their performance" Its is sicking actually.

Well there you go ...
Evidence of abnormal physical changes
Evidence of change in performance.

:-)
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Postby reiser » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:58 pm

Rico The Retard wrote:Esteban Loaiza


haha. which Yankees weren't on 'roids? Loaiza, Vazquez, Brown, Giambi, Sheffield. hmmm...

the other one we already knew about was McGwire.

I agree with the Brett Boone accusation...have you ever looked at his career stats? Beltre really put it all together last year huh? Preston Wilson sure has a lot of "knee" problems.
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Postby LBJackal » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:17 pm

wrveres wrote:Roger Maris with the Indians, so this would be 57 or 58
Notice the arms ...
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The infamous Roger Maris picture of him hitting number 61 at age 27, only 3 years after the first picture. Notice the arms? Plus he went bald that year. He claims it was stress, but how do we know he is not a liar? On top of that he only hit 30 plus homeruns once for the rest of his career (33) never surpassing it again. I might also add that he never played a full season after that, because he was always injured.

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You guys had "convicted" Barry Bonds years ago, using just as much circumstantial evidence, and now you want to go after Brady Anderson and who knows whom ever else, ... "using evidence of abnormal changes to a player physically, and changes in their performance" Its is sicking actually.

Well there you go ...
Evidence of abnormal physical changes
Evidence of change in performance.

:-)


Maris played 3 complete seasons, hardly enough to say he was never a great HR hitter. There wasn't a large change in his body. He had his career year when he was 27, not 37 like Bonds. Yeah, prime steroid candidate ;-7
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Postby Amazinz » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:49 pm

Well as soon as the leaked testimony from Maris comes out I'll buy into that crazy theory. ;-)
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:43 pm

I agree, I don't believe Maris was on roids. He won 2 MVP awards and the sample size is nowhere big enough to say he was cheating.
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