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Postby wrveres » Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:54 pm

dleoboyd wrote:I think that Sosa still has more left in the tank than most of us are giving him credit for. We aren't going to get anymore 320/.400/.625, 60 HR seasons out of him, but I think that a .270/.350/.550, 40+ HR season or two is well within the realm of possibility. I have a hard time believing that he is truly as bad as he was last year.......What we also have to remember is that he struggled with health issues last season and was limited to 478 AB and he still hit 35 HRs. Give him another 100 AB and a season uninterrupted by injury and I think we'd all be singing a different tune.


I agree ;-D
the .270 may be a tad high .. but 35 hrs is very realistic ..
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Postby kentx12 » Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:51 pm

Im in a new slow keeper draft right now and we are mid way thru the 5th round and he is still left. I am suprised noone has taken a chance on him by now. I am intrested to see how long he will last.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:55 pm

wrveres wrote:
dleoboyd wrote:I think that Sosa still has more left in the tank than most of us are giving him credit for. We aren't going to get anymore 320/.400/.625, 60 HR seasons out of him, but I think that a .270/.350/.550, 40+ HR season or two is well within the realm of possibility. I have a hard time believing that he is truly as bad as he was last year.......What we also have to remember is that he struggled with health issues last season and was limited to 478 AB and he still hit 35 HRs. Give him another 100 AB and a season uninterrupted by injury and I think we'd all be singing a different tune.


I agree ;-D
the .270 may be a tad high .. but 35 hrs is very realistic ..


In Wrigley, perhaps. But if he happens to go to Shea, write him off. ;-)
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Postby Lofunzo » Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:04 pm

wrveres wrote:
dleoboyd wrote:I think that Sosa still has more left in the tank than most of us are giving him credit for. We aren't going to get anymore 320/.400/.625, 60 HR seasons out of him, but I think that a .270/.350/.550, 40+ HR season or two is well within the realm of possibility. I have a hard time believing that he is truly as bad as he was last year.......What we also have to remember is that he struggled with health issues last season and was limited to 478 AB and he still hit 35 HRs. Give him another 100 AB and a season uninterrupted by injury and I think we'd all be singing a different tune.


I agree ;-D
the .270 may be a tad high .. but 35 hrs is very realistic ..


I agree completely. ;-D
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Postby dleoboyd » Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:11 pm

kentx12 wrote:Im in a new slow keeper draft right now and we are mid way thru the 5th round and he is still left. I am suprised noone has taken a chance on him by now. I am intrested to see how long he will last.



If this is a 12 team league, my guess is that he would go somewhere in the late 5th or early 6th round......Let us know where he goes, I'm pretty interested to know as well.
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Postby sisyphus » Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:52 pm

He went Round 4, pick 7 in a 5x5 10 team roto mock draft I just finished. I think this was too early. There might not be a lot of real power threats (35-40HR) left at that point, but there are more valuable players to be had.
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Postby rlee » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:34 am

While the power numbers might still be there, I think the big concern is the sliding batting average. An OF with 500 ABs and a .250 average will kill your fantasy team. In that sense, you're almost better off with someone like Mike Cameron who at least will get 25 SBs.
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Postby LBJackal » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:15 am

I'd probably take Cameron over Sosa. They'll have similar BA and R, Sosa will have a dozen more HR, possibly 20 more max IMO, and Cameron will have 20+ more SB's. Sosa will also have about 20 more RBI. So it comes down to 25 SB's or 15 HR and 20 RBI. I'll take the 25 SB's.
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Postby Budworth22 » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:46 am

Sosa is absolutely done. A declining ability to judge the strike zone, which he never had much of anyway. He's getting older, and looks to be off the juice. He is going to a city with colder weather, although now by much. And most importantly, He's going to a much better pitchers division, both in pitching talent, and SHEA STADIUM!. This park is hell on right handed sluggers. I see .250-28-75.
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Postby Erboes » Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:18 pm

Since Rotoguys.com is the only projection service that predicted his decline last season, I feel that is my duty to explain here once again why: His bat has slowed to the point where he has to cheat to hit a home run. This not only drags down his average, but also it makes him commit to swinging even at pitches way out of the strike zone, which is why his selectivity stinks at this point in his career. Worse still is his numbers last season were aided by the wind blowing out in Wrigley. If it wasn't his numbers would have been even worse. If he gets traded to the Mets you can expect worse numbers to the point where he is dropped from the line up all together by the end of the season. Jackal is right, Cameron is a much better option.

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