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Postby stumpak » Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:19 am

You think that's bad? Try having had Riske AND Herges on your team last year. Between those two and Contreras, I consider it a stunning achievement that I was able to claw my way to 2nd place by the end of the season.
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:51 pm

stumpak wrote:You think that's bad? Try having had Riske AND Herges on your team last year. Between those two and Contreras, I consider it a stunning achievement that I was able to claw my way to 2nd place by the end of the season.


Jose Jimenez in 2003.

The SF and Cleveland merry-go-rounds plus Frasor to back up Foulke last year.

I think I'm a pretty good guide as to which closers wil tank.
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Postby Lofunzo » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:55 pm

GotowarMissAgnes wrote:
stumpak wrote:You think that's bad? Try having had Riske AND Herges on your team last year. Between those two and Contreras, I consider it a stunning achievement that I was able to claw my way to 2nd place by the end of the season.


Jose Jimenez in 2003.

The SF and Cleveland merry-go-rounds plus Frasor to back up Foulke last year.

I think I'm a pretty good guide as to which closers wil tank.


Me, too. I had Benitez and F. Cordero. Nice, right?? Well, add Frasor, Riske, Koch, C. Cordero, Field, and Rhodes. :-o
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Postby NY Yankees Fan 2004 » Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:17 pm

I hate Julio, I picked him up as a FA and all he did was help kill my ERA without ever getting me any saves. If Ryan closes, than I would be afraid to draft him that high. Good set-up men do not always equal good closers. :-o

BTW- I also had Riske and Herges on my team this past season :~( !+)
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Postby acsguitar » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:31 pm

Worst pitcher ever...maybee if he dropped his weight down from 500 pounds he would be ok...but no probably not
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Postby dleoboyd » Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:19 pm

acsguitar wrote:Worst pitcher ever...maybee if he dropped his weight down from 500 pounds he would be ok...but no probably not



Julio might be a bit chubby, but he's no that fat.....are you thinking of our Aruba wonder, the buffet plunderer, Syndey Ponson?
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Postby acsguitar » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:25 pm

Well both..hey Im not an O's fan but I am from NOVA so I went up to see them play alot...Tejada is sick...the o's need some pitching bad though...
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Postby Jer19G » Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:50 pm

Julio is like Benitez gone wrong. Terribly wrong. I mean like chapter eleven. Don't draft Julio. At best he will be an o.k. setup man if he's lucky. :-t
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Postby baseballrich » Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:59 am

Julio has electric stuff but NO IDEA how to use it. As an O's fan I have to believe that he is never going to figure it out. They have been beating the same things in his head for 2 years now and he still doesn't do any of it. "Work quickly, throw strikes & change speeds"
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Postby Surfs up » Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:01 pm

Any chance Baltimore could try to trade for Urbina? They could gamble a prospect or two that he will be back for ST. He has a nice price for a solid closer.
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