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Postby killercars » Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:24 pm

we remember schilling and johnson... hudson/mulder/zito (actually a 3-some)... wood/prior, which actually turned into zambrano and clement, but anyway...

there are a couple teams that have some studs waiting to come up..

l.a. - e.jackson/g.miller
phi - c.hamels/g.floyd

who do you see as the better 2-some coming up and what will they do this coming year..???


also, are there others out there i didn't mention...???

thanks

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Postby Rico The Retard » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:24 pm

la's probably has more potential
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Postby Tavish » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:40 pm

A few other ones to keep in mind

Felix Hernandez / Clint Nageotte from Seattle
Dustin McGowan / Francisco Rosario from Toronto
Brandon McCarthy / Kris Honel from the White Sox
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Postby dannahann » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:51 pm

I still have some faith that Kip Wells may learn to pitch rather than try n strike everyone out. If that happens I like the upside of the Ollie Perez Kip Wells duo.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:51 pm

i personally like the phillies duo but the mariners duo could be awesome in a couple of years as well......
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Postby Mookie4ever » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:51 pm

Tavish wrote:Dustin McGowan / Francisco Rosario from Toronto


McGowan is a great prospect - too bad that he just had Tommy John surgery :,-(

Rosario is not much of a prospect - Jason Arnold is farther ahead of him on the depth chart.

What about Gustavo Chasin (sp?) and McGowan or Arnold?
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Postby Tavish » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:02 pm

Didn't McGowan have TJ pretty early in 2004? At least I'm hoping so, I held onto him in my keeper expecting him to be ready at some point in 2005. :-o

As far as Rosario goes all the guy needs is some semblance of control and I think he could make an impact in the majors. He might not be quite as ready for the majors as Arnold but has a much higher upside IMO.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:14 pm

Tavish wrote:Didn't McGowan have TJ pretty early in 2004? At least I'm hoping so, I held onto him in my keeper expecting him to be ready at some point in 2005. :-o

As far as Rosario goes all the guy needs is some semblance of control and I think he could make an impact in the majors. He might not be quite as ready for the majors as Arnold but has a much higher upside IMO.


He had the TJ in May they don't expect him to make it to the majors next year and have him scheduled to start in A and get to AA by June.

http://www.gerrymcdonald.ca/mcgowan.html

Isn't TJ like and ACL where they say it pushes you back 2 years?

But don't overlook Chacin.

In AA AAA and MLB last year he went 19-3 with a 2.57 ERA as a 23 yr old.

As I said in another thread, he relies on a cutter as his out pitch and doesn't have overpowering velocity, so ML hitters may figure him out. Still, he has remarkable control and poise and they just may not figure him out, at least not completely.
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Postby Amazinz » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:27 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:Isn't TJ like and ACL where they say it pushes you back 2 years?

No. It probably varies by case but T.J. recovery is normally one-year and they can start soft-tossing after 4 months.
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Postby FatGuyWithAMullet » Fri Nov 26, 2004 2:44 pm

Kyle Davies / Dan Meyer is my personal favorite.
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