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Postby killercars » Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:26 pm

top-5, 5-toolers looking to break out this year...

i'm not asking for beltran, abreu, vlad, arod types...

i'm looking to breakout types...

patterson/ford/rowand... etc.

do you have a list of your top five, five toolers coming up...???
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Postby Mookie4ever » Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:33 pm

Coming up when?

This year - Alex Rios, Wily Mo
This year or next - Grady Sizemore, Mike Restovich, Jeremy Reed, David DeJesus
Next year - Dave Kelton
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Postby blankman » Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:42 pm

I should point out that what you are asking about is not the five-tool, but rather the five-category player. The two are entirely different.
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Postby Mustangs989 » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:37 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:Next year - Dave Kelton

I don't see this happening at all. Kelton has pretty much fallen off the prospect radar for the Cubs. Dubois, Dopirak, Pie, Sing, Harvey are all ahead of Kelton for hitting prospects. And all of them play either 1B or OF which is where Kelton would most likely play. I see him more as a bench player IMO.

To answer the question, Coco Crisp could be had pretty late and should be decent in all 5 categories. Mookie's list was pretty good besides Kelton ;-) ;-D
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:58 pm

Aaron Boone might be escaping notice
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Postby reiser » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:13 am

Mookie4ever wrote:Coming up when?

This year - Alex Rios, Wily Mo


Wily Mo doesn't steal bases. That said, Patterson should still be a reasonable value next year.

Coco Crisp however....15 HR, 20SB, .297!!!!!!
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Postby Mookie4ever » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:44 am

Mustangs989 wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:Next year - Dave Kelton

I don't see this happening at all. Kelton has pretty much fallen off the prospect radar for the Cubs. Dubois, Dopirak, Pie, Sing, Harvey are all ahead of Kelton for hitting prospects. And all of them play either 1B or OF which is where Kelton would most likely play. I see him more as a bench player IMO.

To answer the question, Coco Crisp could be had pretty late and should be decent in all 5 categories. Mookie's list was pretty good besides Kelton ;-) ;-D


I didn't mention Pie because he is so young. But the guy hit .297 with 32 steals last year. If he can add some power and duplicate that in AA next year he may be worth watching.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:47 am

reiser wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:Coming up when?

This year - Alex Rios, Wily Mo


Wily Mo doesn't steal bases. That said, Patterson should still be a reasonable value next year.

Coco Crisp however....15 HR, 20SB, .297!!!!!!


Wily Mo hasn't stolen bases YET. He only has 500 career AB and has 8 SB. In one year in the minors he stole 26. Remember Pena was only 22 yrs old last year. I think that the SB will come for him.
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Postby killercars » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:03 am

anyone think kearns can bounce back after another offseason between the surgery and he...?
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Postby killercars » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:04 am

you're also right by the way... i meant 5 category, not 5 tool... sorry.
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