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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:28 pm

Soriano
Kent
Giles
Loretta
Bellhorn

Boone
Figgins
Vidro
Durham
Roberts

Castillo
Uribe
Jimenez
Belliard
Polanco

Walker
Kennedy
Womack
Infante
Hudson

Reyes
Miles
Harris
Cora
Rivas

The only real "if's" for me are Kent and Gile. Kent's definitely No. 2 if he comes back in a decent lineup and park. I'm expecting great things out of Giles this year. ;-D

EDIT: These are based on a specific league I'm in that counts walks with a couple other special cats, but I don't think they're that off for standard 5x5's.
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Postby eftda » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:33 pm

Why is everyone ranking Bellhorn so high?

138 hits
93 runs
17 hrs
82 rbi
6 sbs
.264

hes never hit above .270 and his carrier high in homeruns in 27 (2002). In 2004 he had a carrier high 82 rbis, but he has never gotten over the 100 runs mark.


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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:39 pm

eftda wrote:Why is everyone ranking Bellhorn so high?

138 hits
93 runs
17 hrs
82 rbi
6 sbs
.264

hes never hit above .270 and his carrier high in homeruns in 27 (2002). In 2004 he had a carrier high 82 rbis, but he has never gotten over the 100 runs mark.


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/s ... atsId=5831


Walks is why I ranked him so high. If he gets decent PT and the 80+ walks I'm projecting him for -- that's a pretty good boost from a shallow position. I agree in standard 5x5's he's not as high as I have him ranked probably. :*)
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Postby eftda » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:50 pm

I ranked him with 5x5, but maybe I should have gone a little higher :-?
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:25 pm

eftda wrote:I ranked him with 5x5, but maybe I should have gone a little higher :-?


I agree that in 5x5's his value takes a major hit because walks are not included. :-?
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Postby io » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:39 pm

i agree with whoever said its a mess, too many health and pt issues..

Soriano - still #1 .. too much potential over everybody else
Giles
Boone - eye surgery, could be back
Kent
Utley - i think he'll be this high
Loretta
Vidro - if healthy

Reyes - if healthy
K Matsui
Castillo
Figgins
Polanco
T Walker - nice sleeper if he gets the job

S.Hairston - improvement second year
Miles - improvement second year
Jimenez
Freel
Durham
Bellhorn
Hudson
Cantu - nothing amazing, but possible good option

Kennedy - will miss time
Hairston, Jr - cant stay healthy
Roberts - have a bad feeling
Belliard
Scutaro
Infante
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Postby stumpak » Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:04 am

Agree on Matsui--Now that everyone is disabused of the crazy .330 30/30 projections that were being thrown around before last season, I think you will be able to get him on the cheap and expect a solid .285/15/20, which is really a lot nicer than some of the chumps who will probably go ahead of him, i.e. Castillo.
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Postby chefref22 » Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:58 am

1.soriano
2.kent
3.durham
4.loretta
5.giles
6.vidro
7.boone
8.castillo
9.reyes
10.utley
11.uribe
12.roberts
13.matsui
14.polanco
15.bellhorn
16.womack
17.belliard
18.jimenez
19.spivey
20.miles
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Postby dannahann » Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:51 pm

Tough position to rank for me:
 A. Soriano 
 M. Loretta 
 J. Vidro 
 J. Kent 
 J. Reyes 
 M. Giles 
 C. Figgins 
 B. Boone 
 J. Uribe 
 B. Roberts 
 P. Polanco 
 O. Hudson 
 D. Jiménez 
 R. Belliard 
 R. Durham 
 K. Matsui 
 L. Castillo 
 R. Freel 
 M. Bellhorn 
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Postby Bloody Nipples » Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:19 pm

Soriano
Kent
Lorretta
Giles
Vidro
Boone
Utley
Reyes
Matsui
10) Polanco
Womack
Walker
Durham
Miles
Freel
Castillo
Bellhorn
Figgins
S Hairston
20) Infante
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