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Postby Bloody Nipples » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:24 pm

A number of players who qualified at 1B last year will only qualify at DH this coming year. The ones I know of are Ortiz and Hafner (are there more?). My question is how does this change their value? Now that they are only Util players, how much does their value drop? Or, more to the point, how much does their percieved value drop? It would be nice to get that kind of production cheaply because nobody has them on their position lists. Or does the lack of flexibility they bring to a fantasy team really reduce their value?
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Postby grammysboy » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:30 pm

After Edgar's poor start last season, the owner who had kept him dropped him and I used my waiver wire spot to pick him up, thinking: "Hey, its Edgar Martinez, he has to come around." He never did and I was hadcuffed for several weeks with no where to put players and no flexibility. I might grab Ortiz in the draft, but with no position eligibility, his value will drop significantly in our league
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Postby Amazinz » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:33 pm

Flexibility is overrated IMO. Extra eligibility is convenient at times but it's never enough of a factor for me to factor it into draft values.

Players like Ortiz who lose 1B-eligibility this year definitely lose value. I'm not sure about their perceived value and probably wont know until people start mocking. Instead of just being compared to a pool of first basemen now you have to compare them against every draft-worthy hitter.

My guess right now is that someone like Ortiz will be drafted too high for my taste but I haven't gotten far enough in my rankings to know where I'd be comfortable taking him.
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Postby flbtank » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:34 pm

According to Yahoo Ortiz played 34 games at 1b so he "should" still qualify. Hafner on the other hand played only 11...he's strictly DH.
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Postby Amazinz » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:36 pm

flbtank wrote:According to Yahoo Ortiz played 34 games at 1b so he "should" still qualify. Hafner on the other hand played only 11...he's strictly DH.

You're right. I just assume that he had less than 15 because of this post but he does still have 1B-eligibility so it's a moot point. :-]
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Postby LCBOY » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:02 pm

flbtank wrote:According to Yahoo Ortiz played 34 games at 1b so he "should" still qualify. Hafner on the other hand played only 11...he's strictly DH.


According to ESPN Ortiz played 36 games at 1B.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:09 pm

Durazo and Thomas will only be DH eligible
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:17 pm

Durazo, Hafner, Fullmer, Thomas, Salmon, Offerman, and Segui, appear to be the only ones in this situation if I'm reading the stats at ESPN.com correctly. Needless to say most won't be a real impact player fantasy wise next season except for Hafner, Durazo, and maybeThomas.
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Postby Mookie4ever » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:19 pm

Hafner played 11 games at first so he should qualify there in a lot of leagues.

It would suck having to use up a UT spot for him.
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Postby Amazinz » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:22 pm

LCBOY wrote:
flbtank wrote:According to Yahoo Ortiz played 34 games at 1b so he "should" still qualify. Hafner on the other hand played only 11...he's strictly DH.


According to ESPN Ortiz played 36 games at 1B.

Not to split hairs because it really doesn't matter but 34 is the correct total not 36. :-)
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