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Postby eftda » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:30 pm

1. Santana
2. Randy Johsnon
3. Curt Schilling
4. Jason Schmidt/Tim Hudson
6. Mark Prior

How does that look? Am I missing someone?


Here is my question: What round do you draft them in a 16 team league?
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Postby kentx12 » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:33 pm

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: Top 6 Starting Pitchers?

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1. Santana
2. Randy Johsnon
3. Schmidt
4. Schilling
5. Prior
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:45 am

kentx12 wrote:1. Santana
2. Randy Johsnon
3. Schmidt
4. Schilling
5. Prior


I haven't started looking at pitchers yet, but I can't argue with that list. ;-D
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Postby Absolutely Adequate » Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:46 am

I'd want to move Prior up on the list, if the list is what I think the pitchers are going to do next year.

Because of his injury last year, I expect Prior to be a bargain next year. But he came on strong at the end of the year, as everyone remembers.

2.17 era with 43 strikeouts in 37 innings in September. I fully expect him to outpitch everyone else on the list next year, with the possible exception of Johan Santana.
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:49 am

Absolutely Adequate wrote:I'd want to move Prior up on the list, if the list is what I think the pitchers are going to do next year.

Because of his injury last year, I expect Prior to be a bargain next year. But he came on strong at the end of the year, as everyone remembers.

2.17 era with 43 strikeouts in 37 innings in September. I fully expect him to outpitch everyone else on the list next year, with the possible exception of Johan Santana.


I'd want to see him pitch more than a month before I say he's back to pre-injury form. Granted it was a nice showing, but I'd want to see how his arm holds up under more IP.
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Postby NY Yankees Fan 2004 » Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:51 am

My top 6

1. Johan Santana
2. Randy Johnson
3. Jason Schmidt
4. Mark Prior
5. Curt Schilling
6. Roy Oswalt
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Postby kimchi_chigae » Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:03 am

NY Yankees Fan 2004 wrote:My top 6

1. Johan Santana
2. Randy Johnson
3. Jason Schmidt
4. Mark Prior
5. Curt Schilling
6. Roy Oswalt


my list as well. i think...gotta find time to work on rankings....
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Postby looptid » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:06 am

For next season?

1. Santana
2. Prior
3. Johnson
4. Sheets
5. Schmidt
6. Schilling

Adjusted for era (the time period, not earned run average), Sheets' 2004 was the ninth best K/BB performance of all time. While K/BB is no where near a full measurement of a pitcher, posting an 8.25 last season meant Sheets was absolutely pounding the strike zone and batters still couldn't make contact. That's a fantastic sign, especially when a climbing or falling K/BB rate historically is a good general indicator of which direction a pitcher's career is heading. That aforementioned list goes:

1. Pedro Martinez - 2000
2. Pedro Martinex - 1999
3. Walter Johnson - 1913
4. Curt Schilling - 2002
5. Christy Mathewson - 1908
6. Greg Maddux - 1997
7. Cy Young - 1901
8. Jim Whitney - 1884
9. Ben Sheets - 2004
10. Cy Young - 1905

Some pretty nice company on that list.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:05 am

There is no way I rate Prior that high after what we saw in 2004. No way. There is no way Sheets gets above Schilling or Schmidt or a number of top pitchers on contending teams in my book either.

Single season leagues:
Santana
RJ
Schilling
Schmidt
Oswalt
C. Zambrano
T. Hudson

Keeper:
Santana
Schmidt
Schilling
Oswalt
C. Zambrano
Hudson
RJ
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Postby LBJackal » Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:20 am

I havn't thought about this much..... but here's a quick list:

Prior
Santana
Schmidt
RJ
Sheets
Schilling

Prior will be the best I think. He shouldn't be drafted the highest because he can be waited for until later, but I think at the end of the season he'll be #1 overall. People are going nuts over Santana and I doubt he'll provide any value whatsoever considering what would be needed to acquire him. Also, Sheets is for real and if not for the lack of wins I would have him higher. You don't get a K/BB like that by fluke. Surprisingly a lot of people don't realize how good he is.
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