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Postby FatGuyWithAMullet » Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:40 pm

Amazinz wrote:
Music2004Man wrote:The mets had to make this signing after they gave up half of their minor league system to get him.

You might be confusing trades here. The Mets traded Wigginton/Peterson for Benson/Keppinger.

I don't think Minaya felt like he had to get this done like Duquette might have else Minaya would have buckled under the initial counter offers.


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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:45 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:The thing is, it is not lefty, it is "quality lefty" that is important. It seems some teams think that being a lefty warrants keeping a clown with no talent around. The Yanks signed Hitchcock awhile back for 2 years...a total loser. Heredia for 2 years...why? What made them sign someone like Felix Heredia at all, let alone for 2 years. Milton...he stinks. He has always stunk.

I agree on Benson. If guys like Benson are bringing in 7.5 M, then what are guys like Pavano going to want?....13 M? Pitching is in short supply and it looks like teams are WAY WAY overspending on some rather mediocre at best talent.


I wasn't trying to say Milton is a quality lefty, just that that's about all he has going for him IMO.
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Postby Tony Clark is my son » Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:47 pm

Benson is a worthwhile pitcher, but not a the price the Mets paid. They did what they did for one main reason: to avoid the embarassment of letting Benson slip through their fingers. They intended to sign him to a contract extension when they acquired him, but failed.

If they lost him, they would be crucified for losing a guy who they openly acknowledged as one of their guys of the future.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:53 pm

You would have hoped that he new regime would not repeat the mistakes of the past ones.
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Postby Amazinz » Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:56 pm

FatGuyWithAMullet wrote:
Amazinz wrote:
Music2004Man wrote:The mets had to make this signing after they gave up half of their minor league system to get him.

You might be confusing trades here. The Mets traded Wigginton/Peterson for Benson/Keppinger.

I don't think Minaya felt like he had to get this done like Duquette might have else Minaya would have buckled under the initial counter offers.


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Postby TheYanks04 » Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:56 pm

Of course if Glendon Rusch can get 4-6.4M on a 2 year deal, then it could be considered a bargain.

Rotoworld:
Glendon Rusch's contract is a one-year deal with a player option for 2006. He'll make at least $4 million if he stays with the Cubs both years.
Incentives based on games started could make the deal worth up to $6.4 million. The player option doesn't make the contract look any better for the Cubs. If Rusch is awful, he'll exercise it. If he's good, he'll decline it. It's basically a no-win situation for the Cubs.
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Postby Amazinz » Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:58 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:You would have hoped that he new regime would not repeat the mistakes of the past ones.

Yeah I really wish the Mets would tackle the pitching situation the way the Yanks have. ;-7

Do you think that if the Mets hadn't signed him that he wouldn't have signed for 6+ per somewhere else?
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Postby Viper8437 » Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:01 pm

what about the way he finished the season?

6IP - 1BB - 4K - 0ER (FLA)
9IP - 0BB - 7K - 0ER (ATL)
7IP - 1ER - 1 BB - 7K (CHN)
5IP - 2ER - 3 BB - 6K (MON)

except for the expos, those are some pretty good teams

it looks promising and shows what he can do
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Postby Viper8437 » Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:03 pm

plus if the mets sign pavano
they wont have such a bad rotation

Pavano
Benson
Zambrano
Glavine
Leiter (maybe)
Trachsel
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Postby TheYanks04 » Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:04 pm

Well at least we do not solve our OF problems with the likes of Cliff Floyd and Mike Cameron. Or IF with Kaz Matsui.

A 3 year deal for that type of money for a guy that has been hurt a lot, has never won and posted nothing but mediocre to lousy numbers just seems excessive. Maybe someone else would have paid him close to want the Mets did, but if that is the case, then the market has gone nuts again. Benson does not even have 1 good year on his resume. And he is hardly the next Johan Santana in the making.
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