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Postby sisyphus » Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:37 pm

Kotchman is an interesting player. I watched him and McPherson up close and personal here in Salt Lake. Sat right behind home plate for all of it. From what I'm hearing locally, Kotchman will begin in Salt Lake, but will probably be on the shuttle as needed. He is a pure hitter, but looks like he could develop power. Excellent strike zone control for a young hitter. McPherson was the more impressive player, but he has some trouble swinging at bad pitches, especially late in the count. Both are going to fantastic players.
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Postby Amazinz » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:30 pm

5x5 Prelim Top 20

Hafner and Durazo were intentionally left out of this list and I am aware that neither Giambi or Kotchman made my top 20. ;-)

01. Pujols
02. Helton
03. Thome
04. Ortiz
05. Huff
06. Sexson
07. Delgado
08. Bagwell
09. Lee
10. Casey
11. Nevin
12. Teixeira
13. Green
14. Konerko
15. Palmeiro
16. Hillenbrand
17. Millar
18. Sweeney
19. Morneau
20. Wilkerson
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Postby Bloody Nipples » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:36 pm

Amazinz, whats up with Morneau and Teixeira on your list? Why are they so low? I have them each a lot higher.
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Postby dleoboyd » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:45 pm

Here are my top 30:


Albert Pujols

Todd Helton
Carlos Delgado
Mark Teixeira
Jim Thome
David Ortiz
Aubrey Huff

Phil Nevin
Derrek Lee
Richie Sexson
Paul Konerko
Mike Sweeney
Brad Wilkerson
Shawn Green
Justin Morneau

Craig Wilson
Jason Giambi
Jeff Bagwell

Lyle Overbay
Sean Casey
Kevin Millar
Dimitri Young
Nick Johnson
Carlos Pena
Ryan Klesko
Rafael Palmeiro
Shea Hillenbrand
Darin Erstad
Ben Broussard
Adam LaRoche
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Postby George_Foreman » Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:58 pm

in the 3b thread, i said david wright was generally undervalued. same thing here with morneau, IMO.

he's in my top 10, ahead of guys like lee, sweeney, bagwell, nevin, etc.

if the concensus stays like this until draft day, i'm going to have a TON of young kids on my teams.
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Postby Pedantic » Mon Nov 29, 2004 4:02 pm

George_Foreman wrote:in the 3b thread, i said david wright was generally undervalued. same thing here with morneau, IMO.

he's in my top 10, ahead of guys like lee, sweeney, bagwell, nevin, etc.

if the concensus stays like this until draft day, i'm going to have a TON of young kids on my teams.


Undervalued? I haven't seen this much hype since Mr. Jose Reyes. 8-o
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Postby Amazinz » Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:41 pm

Bloody Nipples wrote:Amazinz, whats up with Morneau and Teixeira on your list? Why are they so low? I have them each a lot higher.

Probably the main difference right now is that I have Tex listed at 30 HRs. This will probably change. I don't know. It's just prelim so I haven't really broken down each player yet.

Morneau I just see being pretty average for a fantasy 1B next year. .270, maybe 30 HRs, 70 R, 100 RBI. There's quite a few 1B who can put up those type of numbers.
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:06 pm

Amazinz wrote:Morneau I just see being pretty average for a fantasy 1B next year. .270, maybe 30 HRs, 70 R, 100 RBI. There's quite a few 1B who can put up those type of numbers.


I agree about Morneau. Fantasy-wise I don't see him being a real stud personally. He will be taken too early just on name recognition in most drafts and comprable performance can be had later in the draft IMO. :-?
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Postby Lofunzo » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:10 pm

SaintsOfTheDiamond wrote:
Amazinz wrote:Morneau I just see being pretty average for a fantasy 1B next year. .270, maybe 30 HRs, 70 R, 100 RBI. There's quite a few 1B who can put up those type of numbers.


I agree about Morneau. Fantasy-wise I don't see him being a real stud personally. He will be taken too early just on name recognition in most drafts and comprable performance can be had later in the draft IMO. :-?


It all depends on your leaguemates. In my league, I think that he can be had later. I will start thinking about him in the 10th or so. If he's gone by then, so be it. I do like him, though. :-)
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